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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Just. For oFather Robert saith so. And he belike is *Pythagoras. All the proof, is, He said it. Else, what reason have you, why the later place (if Clemens be corrupted) should be thought rather to be corrupted then the former? This ⟨p. 76⟩was wont to be, with young Logicians in Oxford a scholars trick at Paruis: to say that the place in Aristotle is corrupted, when they could not unloose a knot. In deed your latin, either translator, or printer, phath corrupted Clemens in the chief place that he doth make for us against you. Which I say, not (as father Robert doth) upon my word without proof: but the very drift and course of Clemens treatise, and qthe greek copy agreeing fully with it, convinceth it to be so. As for the repugnancy that is between these points in the true copy of Clemens: it seemeth not to have grown of either place corrupted, but of an oversight & slip of memory in Clemens, by reason of a digression which he fell into upon occasion of the precept to sanctify the Sabbath day. And this is the likelier, because there is some body touched by rOrigen for so dividing the commandments: and we find not any that hath divided them so before Clemens; who was Origens master. Which also father Robert himself hath observed. Wherefore you may not look for any help at the hands of Clemens: S. Austin you must stand alone with, and follow one against all.
Rainoldes. Iust. For oFather Robert saith so. And hee belike is *Pythagoras. All the proofe, is, He said it. Else, what reason haue you, why the later place (if Clemens be corrupted) should be thought rather to be corrupted then the former? This ⟨p. 76⟩