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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The note of your Rhemists, about the Greek & Hebrew word, is true (I grant,) yet foolish too: though true in the thing, yet foolish in the drift. For to the intent that where the Apostle saith, we have an altar, it may be thought he meant not that word spiritually, or in a figurative sense, as we expound it of Christ, but materially of a very altar such as is used in their Masses: they say that the 1Greek word (as also the 2Hebrew answering thereunto in the old testament) signifieth properly an altar to sacrifice on, and not a metaphorical and spiritual altar. Which speech how dull it is in respect of the point to which they apply it: I will make you see by an example of their own. Our Saviour in the gospel teacheth of himself that he is ythe true bread, zwhich giveth life unto the world; athe bread which came down from heaven, that whosoever eateth of it should not die: bif any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever. Your cRhemists do note hereon, that the person of Christ incarnate is meant under the metaphor of bread, and our belief in him is signified by eating. Wherein they say well. But if a man should tell them that the 1Greek word (as also the 2Hebrew answering thereunto in the old testament) doth properly signify bread which we eat bodily, and not a metaphorical or spiritual bread: were not this as true a speech as their own? Yet how wise to the purpose, who is so blind that seeth not? Yea, to go no farther then the very word, whereof by their Hebrew and Greek they seek advantage: them selves, upon that place of