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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. This is a rope of sand rather, then a cord: it will not hang together. For whereas D. Allen doth thus allege eMalachi after your fold translation, in every place there is sacrificed and offered a clean offering to my name, saith the Lord of hosts: the Hebrew text, and after the Hebrew the Greek of the seventy interpreters (which the Fathers follow) do set it down thus; in every place there is gincense offered to my name, and a clean offering. Now the word [incense] is used in the scripture simply for prayers, in the fifth chapter of the Revelation: where hthe golden vials of the four and twenty Elders are full of *odours, or incenses (to keep the word,) which are the prayers of the Saints. And so do ithe Fathers expound the same in Malachi. Wherefore the first reason which you rehearsed of D. Allen's, that the word [to sacrifice] being used by it self without a term abridging it, is taken in the scripture always properly for the act of outward sacrifice, is false, both in it self, and by the judgement of the Fathers. For that word of his, is incense in the Fathers according to the scripture. But incense in the scripture is taken for prayers figuratively. By the judgement therefore and exposition of the Fathers, that word doth not infer the sacrifice of the Mass, but our spiritual sacrifices.
Rainoldes. This is a roape of sande rather, then a coard: it will not hang together. For whereas D. Allen doth thus alleage eMalachie after your folde translation, in euery place there is sacrificed and offered a cleane offering to my name, saith the Lord of hostes: the Hebrew text, and after the Hebrew the Gréeke of the seuentie interpreters (which the Fathers folow) doo set it downe thus; in euery place there is