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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. You have conceived too lightly of Torrensis, I can not think that he would allege not one witness out of all antiquity, if he had known any of that mind in deed. Chiefly seeing that he is so ambitious in citing Fathers when he hath them, that, to prove the church was builded upon Peter, ghe quoteth no less then eight and forty places out of Doctors and Councils, to let go other writers which (he saith) he passeth over. But, grant there is perhaps some one, or two, or three, or four (whom your Jesuits have not found yet) that are of S. Austins mind in that point. If fewer of the Fathers expound a place of scripture contrary to more of them: which shall we follow then? the lesser or the greater number?
Rainoldes. You haue conceiued too lightlie of Torrensis, I can not thinke that he would alleage not one witnesse out of all antiquitie, if he had known anie of that mind in déede. Chieflie séeing that he is so ambitious in citing Fathers when he hath them, that, to proue the church was builded vpon Peter, ghee quoteth no lesse then eight and fortie places out of Doctors and Councels, to let go other writers which (he saith) he passeth ouer. But, graunt there is perhaps some one, or two, or three, or foure (whom your Iesuits haue not found yet) that are of S. Austins mind in that point. If fewer of the Fathers expound a place of scripture contrarie to more of them: which shall we folow thē? the lesser or the greater number?
- gConfess. Augustin. lib. 1. cap. 9. tit. 2.
Hart. *The greater number. For a few may be deceived more easily then many.