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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. They might. But our confessions withal should have taught them, that as they may provide for athings ⟨p. 576⟩to be done with comeliness and in order: so their rites and ceremonies must be ball to edify. Which the Trent-fathers observed not in this rite, of having the service in a strange tongue, as themselves acknowledge. For cthey write expressly, that 1although the Mass contain great instruction of the faithful people, yet the Fathers have not thought it expedient 2that it should be sung or said every where in the vulgar tongue. Whereof this is the meaning, to open it in plainer words, that the corrupt custom of the Church of Rome, praying, and reading the scriptures in a strange tongue, in deed doth not edify: yet must stand for policy, to keep their Churches credit. For if they should yield that they have erred in one thing, men would doubt perhaps that they might err in more. And this do they farther bewray by the other point of uttering the words of consecration *secretly, that the faithful may not hear them. For in saying that dthe Church hath ordained that rite, they do closely grant that Christ ordained it not. Nay, etheir own men teach that fthe example of Christ, and gthe order of his Apostles, with h