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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Then must you bid your Schoolmen now adieu, and agree with us in the division of the commandments; though we give you Clemens (whom father Robert citeth) and three or four voices more. Howbeit I can not urge you to do it, unless that you do it upon surer ground: because this ground is slabby, and the rule unsure for men to walk on. For, that the greater number of the Fathers expoundeth Scriptures worse sometimes then the lesser: it appeareth by the controversy between hAustin and iJerome, concerning the reproof of Peter: whether Paul rebuked him in earnest, as blameworthy; or dissembled with him, and made 1a dutiful lie, which Jerome termed 2an honest policy. For, kyour selves grant, that Austin (who thought that Paul reproved him in earnest) did judge therein more soundly & truly then Jerome did, who thought that he dissembled. Yet Jerome alleged more Fathers on his side▪ and made so great account of them, that lhe desired Austin to suffer him to err with such men if he thought him to err. Whereupon ⟨p. 78⟩mS. Austin replied, that peradventure he might find as many Fathers on his side, if he had read much. But I, saith he, have Paul the Apostle himself in stead of these all, and above these all. To him do I fly, to him I appeal from all the Doctors (his interpreters) who are of other minds. Of him do I ask, whereas he writeth to the Galatians, that he saw Peter not going with a right foot to the truth of the Gospel, and that he withstood him to his face for it, because by that dissembling he constrained the Gentiles to do like the Jews: whether he wrote true, or did lye perhaps *