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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. That rule of S. Austin, is probable, not necessary. For though it be likely that there was no custom observed by the Church through the whole world, which it had not from the Apostles, chiefly, seeing mChristians did vary then so much in rites of all sorts: yet they might either have taken up, or kept of that they had before, some thing which the Apostles delivered not unto them. But admit his rule as an undoubted principle to your most advantage: and yet are you no nearer the proof of those ceremonies. For how can you prove that incense, lights, vestments, and the rest of your baggage were used at that time through the whole world?
Rainoldes. That rule of S. Austin, is probable, not necessarie. For though it be likely that there was no custome obserued by the Church through the whole world, which it had not from the Apostles, chiefly, seeing mChristians did vary then so much in rites of all sortes: yet they might either haue taken vp, or kept of that they had before, some thing which the Apostles deliuered not vnto them. But admit his rule as an vndouted principle to your most aduantage: and yet are you no neerer the proofe of those ceremonies. For how can you proue that incense, lightes, vestiments, and the rest of your baggage were vsed at that time through the whole world?
- mSocrat. histo• ▪ eccles. lib. 5. cap. 21.
Hart. Incense to have been used,n I have proved by S. Denis Areopagita: lights, by S. Austin.
Hart. Incense to haue béene vsed,