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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The Bishops of the east church qsay that the Council of Lateran was not general: which the Pope him self doth acknowledge also, ras it is noted on your law. But here the former difficulties meet us again, and breed the same perplexity. For there are but few places of Scripture which general Councils have expounded: neither is it likely the Pope will assemble them to expound the rest. Again, although syou say that general Councils can not err in their conclusions: yet you say they may err in applying of Scriptures to prove their conclusions. Lastly, general Councils may dissent too: tas heretofore they have in a weighty point of faith touching Christ. The which incommodities being all incident into this which presently we debate of, as our conference will show: you see that you have not yet resolved me. One question I must ask you more. In this case, when Councils say nothing of Scriptures; or misapply them, in proofs; or dissent, in conclusions: what are we to do?
Rainoldes. The Bishops of the east church qsay that the Councell of Lateran was not generall: which the Pope him selfe doth acknowledge also, ras it is noted on your law. But here the former difficulties méete vs againe, and bréede the same perplexitie. For there are but few places of Scripture which generall Councels haue expounded: neither is it likely the Pope will assemble them to expound the rest. Againe, although syou say that generall Councels can not erre in their conclusions: yet you say they may erre in applying of Scriptures to prooue their conclusions. Lastly, generall Councels may dissent too: tas heretofore they haue in a weightie point offaith touching Christ. The which incommodities being all incident into this which presently we debate of, as our conference will shew: you sée that you haue not yet resolued me. One question I must aske you more. In this case, when Councels say nothing of Scriptures; or misapply them, in proofes; or dissent, in conclusions: what are we to doo?