A10345:1881
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Nay, you are deceived much in D. Allen, if you think his judgement changed any whit from that it was in this point. But in his Apology he citeth the Fathers only, not the scriptures, because you have colours of spiritual sacrifices to shift the scriptures off; but you cannot the Fathers so. For they all were Mass-priests themselves, and said Mass.
Hart. Nay, you are deceued much in D. Allen, if you think his iudgement changed any whit from that it was in this point. But in his Apologie he citeth the Fathers onely, not the scriptures, because you haue colours of spiritual sacrifices to shift the scriptures off; but you cannot the Fathers so. For they all were Masse-priestes themselues, and said Masse.
Rainoldes. What one of them, M. Hart? If you speak indeed to the point of the Mass, and dally not, as D. Allen: who maketh Mass-priests of the Apostles, because they did consecrate the body and blood of Christ, and offer it. For if to consecrate ⟨p. 609⟩and offer, as dthey did, be to say Mass: then we say Mass in our Communion, and our Ministers are Mass-priests Which (I think) you mean not.
Rainoldes. What one of them, M. Hart? If you speake indeede to the point of the Masse, and daly not, as D. Allen: who maketh Masse-priestes of the Apostles, because they did consecrate the body and bloud of Christ, and offer it. For if to consecrate ⟨p. 609⟩and offer, as dthey did, be to say Masse: then wee say Masse in our Communion, and our Ministers are Masse-priests Which (I thinke) you meane not.
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