A10345:1894
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. That is false M. Hart, as you refer it to our Communion. For as we keep the name, so we keep the meaning of the name too: and therefore the thing it self with S. Paul. But turn it to your Mass: and it is very true. For in S. Ambroses time the Christian people, having public prayers in many Churches daily, mdid therewithal daily receive the holy sacrament of Christs body, and blood. Now, because sundry were at other parts of divine service, for whom it was not lawful to receive the sacrament, as 1novices in the faith who were not yet baptized, and 2such as Church discipline removed from the communion: therefore they were wont (after prayers made, and scriptures read, and taught,) nto dismiss the rest who might not communicate, the faithful only staying to receive together. And this dimission of them was noted by the word omissa, *used for missio, that is a sending away, or licensing to depart. Whence it came to pass that the very name of missa was given to that part of the service: and they were said missam facere, who celebrated the communion as S. Ambrose did. Wherefore though your sacrifice keepeth the name of Mass, that S. Ambrose used: yet doth it not keep the thing meant thereby. For nether send you them away, who receive not: and many a Mass is said that hath no communicants.
Rainoldes. That is false M. Hart, as you referre it to our Communion. For as we keepe the name, so we kéepe the meaning of the name too: and therefore the thing it selfe with S. Paul. But turne it to your Masse: and it is very true. For in S. Ambroses time the Christian people, hauing publike prayers in many Churches dayly, mdid therewithall dayly receiue the holy sacrament of Christes body, and bloud. Now, because sundry were at other partes of diuine seruice, for whom it was not lawful to receiue the sacrament, as