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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The treatise of your Doctor against the Protestants opinion, is like the army of Antiochus prepared against the Romans: very great and huge of men of many nations, but white livered soldiers: neither so strong with armour, as glistering with gold and silver. Antiochus him self was amazed at it, and thought it unuincible: so did the simple fools of his country too. But dthe Romans contemned it: and eHannibal jested at it. The name of Protestants, (which fhe useth tauntingly as all one with Heretics) we are no more ashamed of, then were the gProphets and hApostles: whom the Spirit of God hath honoured with that title because they did make a protestation of their faith, iupon the like occasion, as did the faithful in Germany when they were noted by that name. The Protestants opinion, I have already showed to be the opinion of the ancient Protestants, the Fathers, the Apostles, the holy Ghost who spake by them. If you call it an error: we are content to err with them. If he think it an heresy: we are no better then Paul, kwho in such heresy served God. The ground which lhe layeth for the disproof of it: is such, that it seemeth, his wits and he had made a fray when he laid it. He saith, that the scripture ought to be expounded by the rule of faith, and therefore not by scripture only. Which is (in effect) as if a man should say: the church must be taught by living creatures endued with reason, and therefore not by men only. For as a living creature endued with reason, and a man, is all one, which every child knoweth by the principles of logic: so the rule of faith, and scripture is all one, doth not your Doctor know it? It is a principle of divinity, delivered by S. Austin, whom