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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. You expound these places, I cannot tell how. For much of that which you say, is said by us also: and yet you agree not with us in the principal. Howsoever you cast the parcels of your count: there is a fault in the sum. Wherefore you must pardon me if I allow it not. For, (to use *his words, whose opinion, though you mislike him, I far esteem above yours:) by the name of the keys of the kingdom of heaven which Christ promised to Peter, he simply meant all power, whereby the kingdom of heaven (in whatsoever sense you take it) may be shut and opened. As for that which followeth, aand whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven: 1this is not (as some have thought) an explication or limitation of the keys. For so, by those words, should Christ have restrained the power of Peter to the only outward ecclesiastical court. For 2it is the common opinion of all the Schoolmen, that by those words, bwhatsoever ye shall bind, and so forth, (which are like to these words spoken unto Peter, and have the same meaning) an ecclesiastical judge in the outward court is made: as by those other words, cwhose sins ye remit, and so forth, an ecclesiastical judge in the inward court is made. Wherefore, if din this place, that [whatsoever thou shalt bind] were an explication or limitation of the keys: ⟨p. 104⟩then by the name of keys were promised to Peter a power judicial only in the outward court: which is but a part (and that a lesser part) of the power of the keys. For a great deal more excellent is the power of remitting sins, then of excommunicating or suspending a man from his office or honour: and therefore this may be exercised by him that is not a Priest, whereas the other belongeth unto Priests only. Again, because our Saviour