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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. No. But he bringeth your opinion in deed by way of an objection, and frameth thereunto an answer, and so resolveth to the contrary. For thus he goeth forward. What? Is that given then to all the Apostles, which was promised to Peter? Caietan (in his treatise of the Popes authority) saith that the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and the power of binding and loosing, are not all one: for that to bind and loose is less then to open and shut. But this doctrine seemeth to be more subtle then true. For it is a thing unheard of, that there are in the Church any other keys then the keys of order and of jurisdiction. And the sense of those words, I will give thee the keys, and whatsoever thou shalt bind and loose, is plain: that first, a certain power and authority is promised; afterward, the function of it is declared. Now the function of these keys is declared by the words to bind and loose, not by the words, to shut and open: that we may understand they be metaphorical and borrowed kinds of speeches; neither heaven is opened properly, but it is said that heaven is opened then with these keys when men are loosed and dispatched of the difficulties and infirmities which shut them out of heaven, and so forth. Thus saith your chiefest reader, and Jesuit Robert Bellarmin: whose judgement (by your leave) I far esteem, in this point, above D. Stapletons, as more agreeable to the scriptures.
Rainoldes. No. But he bringeth your opinion in deede by way of an obiection, and frameth thereunto an answere, and so resolueth to the contrary. For thus he goeth forward. What? Is that giuen then to all the Apostles, which was promised to Peter? Caietan (in his treatise of the Popes authority) saith that the keyes of the kingdome of heauen, and the power of byndyng and loosing, are not all one: for that to bynd and loose is lesse then to open and shut. But this doctrine seemeth to be more subtill then true. For it is a thing vnheard of, that there are in the Church any other keyes then the keyes of order and of iurisdiction. And the sense of those wordes, I will giue thee the keyes, and whatsoeuer thou shalt bind and loose, is plaine: that first, a certaine power and authoritie is promised; afterward, the function of it is declared. Now the function of these keyes is declared by the wordes to bind and loose, not by the wordes, to shut and open: that we may vnderstand they be metaphoricall and borowed kindes of speeches; neither heauen is opened properly, but it is said that heauen is opened then with these keyes when men are loosed and dispatched of the difficulties and infirmities which shut them out of heauen, and so forth. Thus saith your chiefest reader, and Iesuit Robert Bellarmin: whose iudgement (by your leaue) I farre esteeme, in this point, aboue D. Stapletons, as more agreeable to the scriptures.