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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. And did not he (think you) go about to show and prove by this example, that conference of scripture is but a bad means to come unto the right sense of the scripture? Doubtless such a conference, as this (at which he fumbleth) is not the wisest way to find it. But, I know not how, when he meddleth with scripture, he seemeth half amazed, as it were a creature in a strange element. For neither he remembereth lhis own exception against us, that in the same sentence one word hath sundry senses often: nor marketh that a conjunction is used as ⟨p. 114⟩properly to couple together agreeing things as different, mand both (as here) in one place: nor considereth that things may differ, each from other, and yet be expounded each of them by other, as the cause by the effects, the whole by the parts: nor weigheth (the point in question) that although in Matthew the words of Christ to Peter did differ in meaning as much as he would have them, yet Christ by his general commission in John might perform jointly to all the Apostles that which he promised to him. And this (to put the matter out of all controversy, because it is the issue between you and us) the very words of the commission, delivered in the scriptures, expounded by the Fathers, observed by the Schoolmen, do convince so forcibly: that nthe Jesuit (whom I named) the Popes own professor, & most earnest proctor of the Popes supremacy, was fain to seek other shifts whereby to help it, but this he could not choose but grant. For having taught that the keys promised to Peter were only two, of order, and of jurisdiction: he declared that Christ did give them both to his Apostles: the key of jurisdiction over all the world, in that he said to them, As my Father sent me, so do I send you, which Cyril and Chrysostom note upon it; the key of order in the words that immediately follow, Receive the holy Ghost, whose sins soever ye remit, they are remitted to them, whose sins soever ye retain, they are retained. Or, if D. Stapleton love himself so well, that neither Scriptures, nor Fathers, nor Schoolmen, nor Jesuits, can make him to acknowledge his own oversight: let him hear a witness who can do more with him, against whom there lieth no exception for him, unless it be that of the law,