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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. So: he saith that full power was given them by those words, As my Father sent me: but, that the words which follow contain a part thereof only, Whose sins soever ye remit: as again he mentioneth in that very place. Now, these two sayings agree well together: that it is given, by the one; & by the other it is not. ⟨p. 115⟩Wherefore your self offend in that you touch him, when you do touch him as a liar. A common fault with Protestants, in dealing against us: which argueth your church of what brood it is. qThe Devil is a liar: and the father thereof.
Hart. So: he saith that ful power was giuen them by those wordes, As my Father sent me: but, that the words which folow conteine a part therof only, Whose sins soeuer ye remit: as again he mentioneth in that verie place. Now, these two sayings agrée well togither: that it is giuen, by the one; & by the other it is not. ⟨p. 115⟩Wherefore your selfe offend in that you touch him, when you doo touch him as a lyer. A common fault with Protestants, in dealing against vs: which argueth your church of what brood it is. qThe Deuil is a lyer: and the father thereof.
Rainoldes. If any man of our profession be stained with this filth: we wish him and exhort him to cleanse him self of it, least the name of God, be (through his default) blasphemed among the Gentiles. But you do us injury to condemn our church for the offence of some in it. For,