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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Christ said to the Apostles, iGo ye into all the world▪ and preach the Gospel to every creature. Whereof thus I reason. Christ did charge his Apostles to preach the Gospel to every creature, to every one without exception. But Peter was a creature. Therefore they had the charge of preaching to him also. Now, if I would play with words as your men do: I could show that this reason must overmaster yours in the plain field. For Christ said not to Peter, feed all my sheep: but he said to the Apostles, preach to every creature.
Rainoldes. Christ saide to the Apostles, iGo ye into all the world▪ and preach the Gospell to euery creature. Whereof thus I reason. Christ did charge his Apostles to preach the Gospell to euerie creature, to euerie one without exception. But Peter was a creature. Therefore they had the charge of preaching to him also. Now, if I would play with wordes as your men doo: I could shew that this reason must ouermaster yours in the plaine field. For Christ said not to Peter, feed all my sheepe: but he said to the Apostles, preach to euerie creature.
Hart. But you should consider *that Christ giving that commandment to Peter, gave it with a difference between the sheep and the lambs, as kS. Ambrose hath noted well, (set me down, I pray, his own words in Latin:) tertiò Dominus interrogavit: & noniam agnos, ut primò, quodam lacte pascendos; nec oviculas, ut secundò; sed oves pascere jubetur, perfectiores ut perfectior gubernaret. That is to say, When the Lord had asked Peter the third time, Dost thou love me? he is commanded now to feed, not the lambs, as at the first time, who must be fed with certain milk; not the little sheep as the second time; but to feed the sheep, that he (a man more perfect) might govern the more perfect. So that the whole flock of Christ was committed to Peter to be fed, as well the small as the great; both the lay men, who, as lambs, are fed themselves, and feed not others; & the Priests and Clergy, who, as sheep, do feed the lambs, but are fed of the shepherd.