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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. You say true. How much the more were they to blame pwho decreed that a translation should be accounted as authentical *in all Divinity-exercises, and no man under any pretence to reject it. But if there had been such force and importance in the Greek [Greek or Hebrew]: your Latin translator could have expressed it easily. For qotherwhere he doth translate it 1to rule: and that, being spoken of meaner Pastors then Peter, even of the Bishops of Ephesus. Which bewrayeth further the silly state of your proof grounded on the word. For, if Peter were ordained supreme head because he was willed to rule the 2sheep or 3lambs: what headship may the Bishops of Ephesus claim, who were made overseers to rule the church of God, that is both lambs and sheep? But your last proof upon the word rto feed which signifieth (you say) a power most full and absolute, is most out of square: and neither agreeth with your selves, nor with truth and reason. For you said that lambs are only fed of Peter: sheep, both fed and ruled. Which is fond, if to rule be no more then to feed: fonder, if to feed imply a power most full and absolute. Beside that, to feed, is to nourish Christians with smilk or strong meat according to their state, as they are either lambs or sheep. Wherefore if that import the fullness of power which no man hath but one, to weet, the supreme head: how great is your cruelty to the church of Christ, who leave but one Pastor throughout all the earth to preach the word of God unto it? Or if you leave more, & grant that several Churches shall have their several Pastors after the ordinance of God: how great is your folly who granting us so many Pastors & feeders, yet say, that one alone hath the charge to feed, and that importeth a supremacy? For if every Pastor have charge to feed his flock; and to feed implieth a fullness of power peculiar to the supreme head: then by your reason