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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Cato said *that he marvelled, that a Sooth-sayer did not laugh when he saw a Sooth-sayer. Me thinks, the professors of your divinity should laugh, when they see one an other. For, they prove the points of their Popish doctrine by as strong reasons: as the Sooth sayers used to prove their divinations by the liver, and the hart, and other entrails of beasts. ⟨p. 145⟩But children are persuaded, when they hear a ring of belles that the belles speak whatsoever they have fancied, at least, like unto it. The Lord, when the Apostles did strive about dominion and superiority, told them, that none of them should be amongst the rest, as kings amongst the Gentiles: yet least he should seem withal to have forbidden all dominion amongst them, he appointed Peter to be their supreme head. Thus saith the Soothsayer. But what saith the Scripture? In effect the clean contrary. For it showeth, that Christ phaving reproved them for striving who should be the greatest, and thirsting to be Lords after the manner of earthly kings: qtaught them, that an humbling of them selves to their brethren, and a desire to do good by serving each of other, must be the preeminence that they should seek, as rhe had done. And as sthey had been partakers of his troubles, so thad he appointed to them a kingdom also: uto make them partakers of that bliss and glory, in which he should reign him self, as king of kings, & they (as counsellors about him) sitting on xtwelve thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel. Now the former part of this speech of Christ debarreth the Apostles all from that supremacy (of