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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. What tell you me of Francis Duaren, whose authority I regard not, nor am to be pressed with it? Chiefly, sith he was a Lawyer, not a Divine: and whither he were a Catholic or no, I know not. I will prove by the ancient and holy learned fathers, that Peter had a full and perfect supremacy over the Apostles, in those two places of the Acts.
Hart. What tell you me of Francis Duaren, whose authoritie I regard not, nor am to be pressed with it? Chiefly, sith hée was a Lawier, not a Diuine: and whither he were a Catholike or no, I know not. I will proue by the ancient and holy learned fathers, that Peter had a full and perfit supremacy ouer the Apostles, in those two places of the Actes.
Rainoldes. I did not take Duaren for the strength of mine answer, but the holy scriptures, the same that you alleged. By the text and circumstances whereof, I made it plain, that Peter had no higher power in the assemblies of the Apostles: than hath either the Speaker of our English Parliament, or, (to make the most of it) the President of a court of Parliament in France, which is Duarenes similitude. Howbeit, if I should have used his authority to confirm it, as well as I alleged his words to open it: you might not reject such a man so lightly. For sa gardiner (as the proverb is) hath spoken oft to very good purpose: & tJethro saw more in somewhat then Moses. And Duaren, though a Lawyer, yet was not only skilful of the civil law (which is a great help notwithstanding of wisdom in matters touching government:) but also of the Canon, whereof you may vouchsafe to count as of Divinity; doubtless your Divinity will be cold without it. Beside, he wrote that treatise to instruct students in the Canon law, which is the fortress of the Papacy: and he so delivereth the chiefest points of it, that Lawyers amongst the Protestants were offended & uwrote against him for it. But now (thus you reward men) it is called in question, whether