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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. You shall please me, if you dissent not from them, but only in such things as be known truths. Which is another rule of ours, if you remember it.
Hart. You shall please me, if you dissent not from them, but onely in such thinges as be knowne truthes. Which is another rule of ours, if you remember it.
Rainoldes. I remember it well: and herein I have kept it. For it is a truth and a known truth, that the Fathers write, in favour of the Saints, some things which overlash the truth, if a man examine and try them by the touch-stone. Peter himself shall be the Saint, in whose example I will show it. fHilary, upon the words of Christ unto Peter, *Get thee behind me Satan, thou art an offence to me; saith, it is not meet we should think, that Christ did call Peter Satan; but Christ said to him, get thee behind me, and no more; the rest to the Devil, not to him, Satan thou art an offence to me. The same gHilary, 1almost but hAmbrose quite & clean excuseth Peter from all fault in that he denied Christ, nay Ambrose commendeth him. Peter answered, saith he, *I know not the man, 2He well denied him a man, whom he knew to be God. iClemens and k