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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. See, what wrong you do to that learned man. He saith, that when Paul went to see Peter, he made a certain pilgrimage: and you report him to have said, that he went in pilgrimage.
Hart. Sée, what wrong you doo to that learned man. Hée saith, that when Paule went to see Peter, he made a certaine pilgrimage: and you report him to haue said, that he went in pilgrimage.
Rainoldes. He made a certain pilgrimage: I cry you mercy. I thought he would have proved that kind of pilgrimage which our Church reproveth: and so he meant to do; at least, he pretended it. But, in proving it, he dallieth (like a Sophister) with a certain pilgrimage, such as our Church alloweth. You might as well say, that I came from Oxford in pilgrimage to you: in a certain pilgrimage. And he was overseen, that amongst ⟨p. 179⟩examples of pilgrimage in scripture, he did not mention mJacob: who saith that he spent his life time in pilgrimage; yea, and that his fathers spent in their pilgrimages longer time then he. But whatsoever show the fact of Paul hath for a certain pilgrimage, in that he went to see Peter: it hath no show at all for Peters supremacy. Nay, the whole discourse of Paul in that point, doth drive flat against it: as it hath appeared (in *part thereof) already. Wherefore, you were abused by them who sent you thither. You should have done better to have contained your self within the Acts of the Apostles. And if your two places, in the first, and the fifteenth, had not force enough to prove that which you would: you might in steed thereof have taken two other, out of the eight, & the eleventh, which have force enough to prove that which you should. For, in the one, nthe Apostles which were at Jerusalem, sent Peter and John to the people of Samaria, to strengthen them in the faith through the gift of the holy Ghost. In the other,