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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Alack, you imagine, that the Apostles had equal power with Peter, because they sent him abroad in commission, and asked him a count of that which he did. Poor reasons: God wot. For an inferior may entreat his superior to do his business for him. And specially a body politic or a corporation may choose their head and send him: as Citizens may send their Mayor to the Prince, or Parliament, though he be head of the City because he may be more fit to do their business. And as they may send him, so may they ask a reason of that which he hath done, and call him to account of it. Ween you, that the Cardinals may not entreat the Pope to do this or that, which shall be convenient for the commodity of the Church? Or, that the Pope will think his state to be abased, if they enquire of him why he doth this or that? Perhaps you ween so, because you know neither the Pope, nor the Cardinals. But what say you then to your own selves? Do not your Seniors in Corpus Christi Colledge send abroad your President about your College business? Doth he not give you an account of those things which he hath done? Or, if he give it not, may you not ask it of him? And is ⟨p. 180⟩he therefore not your head?
Hart. Alacke, you imagine, that the Apostles had equall power with Peter, because they sent him abroad in commission, and asked him a count of that which he did. Poore reasons: God wote. For an inferiour may entreat his superiour to doo his busines for him. And specially a bodie politike or a corporation may choose their head and send him: as Citizens may send their Mayor to the Prince, or Parlament, though he be head of the Citie because he may be more fit to doo their businesse. And as they may send him, so may they aske a reason of that which hée hath done, and call him to account of it. Wéene you, that the Cardinals may not entreate the Pope to doo this or that, which shall be conuenient for the commoditie of the Church? Or, that the Pope will thinke his state to be abased, if they enquire of him why hée dooth this or that? Perhaps you wéene so, because you know neither the Pope, nor the Cardinals. But what say you then to your owne selues? Doo not your Seniours in Corpus Christi Colledge send abroad your President about your Colledge businesse? Dooth he not giue you an account of those things which hée hath done? Or, if he giue it not, may you not aske it of him? And is ⟨p. 180⟩