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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. You have answered well. So Jerome meant one way: and I an other. Jerome, that he was head in a preeminence of government; as moderating the actions in assemblies of the Apostles: ⟨p. 229⟩I, that he was not head in sovereignty of power; which the Papists mean. And thus, to conclude, you may see that the Fathers whom you allege for Peter: some give him a prerogative of authority, some of primacy, some of principality, but none of your supremacy. For, your supremacy doth consist in power: and they give equal power to Peter with the rest.
Rainoldes. You haue answered well. So Ierom meant one way: and I an other. Ierom, that he was head in a preeminence of gouernment; as moderating the actions in assemblies of the Apostles: ⟨p. 229⟩I, that he was not head in soueraintie of power; which the Papists meane. And thus, to conclude, you may see that the Fathers whom you alleage for Peter: some giue him a prerogatiue of authoritie, some of primacie, some of principalitie, but none of your supremacie. For, your supremacie doth consist in power: and they giue equall power to Peter with the rest.
Hart. Equal power (I grant) in respect of the Apostleship, but not of pastoral charge. For Peter was over them in that, even as the Pope is over Bishops. And so kwe do expound the words of S. Cyprian, S. Jerome, S. Chrysostom, and other of the Fathers: who give equal power to the Apostles with Peter.
Hart. Equall power (I graunt) in respect of the Apostleship, but not of pastoral charge. For Peter was ouer thē in that, euen as the Pope is ouer Bishops. And so kwe do expound the words of S. Cyprian, S. Ierom, S. Chrysostome, and other of the Fathers: who giue equall power to the Apostles with Peter.