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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. These in deed come nearer to the point in question, because they touch government: at the least some of them. For some, as sthe highest (and so the top it may be too,) seem to have been meant rather of preeminence in grace, then in government. But if you will refer them unto both: it skilleth not. For they can betoken no more then the rest. And the rest do signify, although a preeminence in government, such as it is: yet nothing in comparison of your supremacy.* This is plain by that, which was agreed betwixt us, twhen we spake of the practise of Peters authority in the Acts of the Apostles. For when I granted him to be as the Speaker of the Parliament in England, or the President of a court of Parliament in France, and showed the great difference (out of ua lawyer of your own) between this preeminence, and that supremacy which you claim: you rejected the lawyer, as either ignorant, or unfaithful, and refused this preeminence as not importing that supremacy; because it hath not sovereign power, nay, in power is under the body of the assembly, above which it is in a prerogative of honour. Yet, this preeminence, is all, that is given to Peter by the titles of the mouth, the head, the President of the Apostles. Wherefore, it is evident that by those titles your Papal supremacy is not given to him.
Rainoldes. These in déede come néerer to the point in question, because they touch gouernment: at the least some of thē. For some, as sthe highest (and so the toppe it may be too,) séeme to haue béene meant rather of preeminence in grace, then in gouernment. But if you will referre them vnto both: it skilleth not. For they can betoken no more then the rest. And the rest doo signifie, although a preeminence in gouernment, such as it is: yet nothing in comparison of your supremacie.* This is plaine by that, which was agreed betwixt vs, t