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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. This is to roll the stone of Sisyphus. You drive it up the hill, and still it slippeth backward: yet cease you not to strive, but you strive in vain. For though you fetch it up never so often, down again it will. All Bishops (you say) are the vicars of Christ: but the Pope claimeth that title by an excellency. True. By an excellency he robbeth all Bishops of that honour, which Christ hath given them. For he doth account them all to be his vicars, as Cardinal cTurrecremata calleth them expressly the vicars of the Pope: and proveth by dthe Popes own law, that they are so. Wherefore if you will have them Christs vicars too: the matter must be helped out with your distinction, that first, and directly, they are the Popes vicars; and Christs, by a consequent, and secondarily. As for the man, whom you call the hie priest of God: I know him not. For he is not the hie priest, of the Jews, I trow. And Christians have no hie priest, but the Son of the Highest: even him, of whom eit is written, such an hie priest it became us to have, which is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher then the heavens. Wherefore, I speak not the words of reviling, but of truth and modesty, when I call him a sacrilegious usurper, who taketh the crown of the king of kings, and fetcheth it on his own head. This doth that man of sin: who saith that *it is necessary for every man unto salvation, to be subject to the Pope: and that they, who say he hath not charge over them, are not of Christs sheep, because the Lord saith in John, that there shall be one flock and one pastor.
Rainoldes. This is to roale the stone of Sisyphus. You driue it vp the hill, and still it slippeth backeward: yet cease you not to striue, but you striue in vaine. For though you fetch it vp neuer so often, downe againe it will. All Bishops (you say) are the vicars of Christ: but the Pope claimeth that title by an excellencie. True. By an excellencie he robbeth al Bishops of that honour, which Christ hath giuen them. For he doth account them all to be his vicars, as Cardinall c