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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. An illusion, you should say. But the places both, as well this of Genesis, as that of Deuteronomy, are taken in a mystical sense of your own: so that to win a matter which must be won by sound proof, they are both of like force, because that neither is of any. For the literal sense of that in Deuteronomy doth concern the Jews: to whom the Lord spake it by his servant Moses. Now, how dangerous it is to build, as upon scripture, things, which are not grounded upon the literal sense thereof: we may learn by the mystical sense of that place, which a Pope giveth; and no common Pope, but Innocentius the third, the Father of the Lateran-council, in which your popish Shrift and Transubstantiation were enacted first. He, in a decretal (which is enrolled in the hcanon law, as a rule of the government of the Church for ever) doth bring forth that same place of Deuteronomy, to prove that the Pope may exercise temporal jurisdiction not only in his own dominion, but in other countries too, on certain causes. And, *because Deuteronomy is the second law, by interpretation: it is proved (saith he) by the force of the word, that what is there decreed ought to be observed in the new Testament. Upon the which principle he doth expound it thus: that the place which the Lord hath chosen, is Rome: the Levitical Priests are his brethren, the Cardinals: the judge is himself, the vicar of Christ: the judgements are of three sorts; the firs•, between blood and blood, is meant of 1criminal & civil causes; the last, between plague and plague, of 2ecclesiastical and criminal; the middle, between cause & cause, pertaineth unto 3both ecclesiastical & civill. In the which when any thing shall be hard or doubtful: recourse must be had to the judgement of the See Apostolic ⟨p. 242⟩(that is, of Rome:) whose determination if any man presumptuously refuse to obey, he is adjudged to dye, that is, to be cut off, as a dead man, from the communion of the faithful by excommunication. Lo: this is a mystical sense of that place, which you alleged out of Deuteronomy. It runneth very roundly with the Popes supremacy. But Christian States (I hope) will hold the literal sense against it. For if they allow this doctrine of Pope Innocentius, as catholic: the Pope must be supreme head of all Christians, both in ecclesiastical causes and civill.