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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Yet Franciscus Lucas doth wrangle still about it: and saith, that all the Latin copies, which they could find do read it [ipsa;] and of the two, which you mention, he doubteth, whether one did follow the Latin or the Hebrew; and he maketh show of proof that the Hebrew may well agree to the Latin, with a little hammering of it. Yea, and that is more, as in all the Bibles, that I have seen of yours, the Latin hath ipsa, not ipse, shee, not he; though qyour greatest friends have wished you (for shame) ⟨p. 248⟩to mend it: so in an Hebrew text of the famous rBible of king Philip, (which but now I mentioned) the word [1 he] is altered according to the latin [2 she;] and that not of error but of purpose, as it is witnessed by sFranciscus Lucas. Which is greater boldness in corrupting the Hebrew, than you can justly charge the Jews with. But if it be sufficient to clear both the Latin edition, & your selves, that you have found a book, or two, wherein [ipse] is read as your Divines say: how much more justly may we clear both the Hebrew text and the Jews, who, (as it is noted in their Masoreth) found sundry books with [Caaru.] Chiefly, sith they commend the books, as 1well corrected, which had that reading: you commend not yours. And they 2reprove a note, which some had made rashly, to bring in the other reading in steed of that: you make such notes your selves. And they (upon the text, where [Caari] is read) do note 3that the word hath another meaning. then where it signifieth [as a Lion:] what note you so of [ipsa?] And you these many ages have kept in your Bibles a faulty reading, without any mention of the true: they have done the contrary in theirs of ancient time. Finally, where you can find but two copies, in which the Latin edition doth read ipse, not ipsa: if yet you can find two, (for of them you doubt:) they, beside the copies extant at the time that the Masoreth was written, have had sundry amongst them even till our days, in which it is read not Caari, but Caaru. For it is avouched out of many singular good copies, by