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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Yet you will grant, (I trust,) that amongst the Priests there was one chief: yea, even in this matter of highest judgement in doubtful causes. Which, (in tthe same place of Scripture that you brought to expound this,) is showed by king Jehoshaphat: saying unto them, to whom that judgement was committed; Amarias the Priest shall be the chief over you in matters of the Lord.
Hart. Yet you will graunt, (I trust,) that amongst the Priestes there was one chiefe: yea, euen in this matter of highest iudgement in doubtfull causes. Which, (in tthe same place of Scripture that you brought to expound this,) is shewed by king Iosaphat: saying vnto them, to whom that iudgement was committed; Amarias the Priest shall be the chiefe ouer you in matters of the Lord.
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Rainoldes. This I will grant you. But you must grant me also, that look what is given to him, amongst the Priests, in matters of the Lord, that is, in ecclesiastical: the same, amongst the judges, is given to Zebadias in matters of the king, that is in ⟨p. 252⟩civil causes. For, Jehoshaphat doth say as well the one, as the other. So that (to come now to the later point of your lame similitude,) if Christians must have a sovereign Bishop over all, because the Jews had one chief Priest ▪ then Christians must have a sovereign Prince over all, because the Jews had one chief judge. And as all harder causes, at least of religion must be referred to the Pope: so all of civill matters must be referred to the Emperor. And as, amongst the Jews, the Priest and judge were resident in the place which the Lord had chosen: so the Pope and the Emperor must both abide in Rome. Which