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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. It is probable enough, as Father Robert handleth it. For streams may be corrupted as easily as the fountain, or take infection at least from the fountain being corrupted. Now the fountain as it were, whence the rest have drawn it, is the sixth Council. And he saith, that there the name of Honorius was thrust in amongst the names of other heretics, by malicious men, of spite against the Pope. Whereof he bringeth two proofs. One, that Anastasius witnesseth it to have been so, out of Theophanes. An other, that the Greeks adventured sometimes to corrupt books: as nthe same Council declareth by their practises.
Hart. It is probable enough, as Father Robert handleth it. For streames may be corrupted as easily as the fountaine, or take infection at least from the fountaine being corrupted. Now the fountaine as it were, whence the rest haue drawne it, is the sixth Councell. And he saith, that there the name of Honorius was thrust in amongst the names of other heretikes, by malitious men, of spite against the Pope. Whereof hee bringeth two proofes. One, that Anastasius witnesseth it to haue bene so, out of Theophanes. An other, that the Gréekes aduentured sometimes to corrupt bookes: as nthe same Councell declareth by their practises.
- n•ext. synod. Constantinop. act. 3.
Rainoldes. The Council declareth that there were some copies of a former Council, that had been corrupted by heretics among the Greeks. But, as evil dealing doth still leave steppes behind it, whereby it may be traced out, otheir corruption was discovered both by circumstances of the thing, and by the manner of writing, and by conference with other copies. Now in these places of the sixth Council in which Honorius is touched: you can show no token of any such suspicion. Nay, the tokens all are clear to the contrary: even that which you allege of the Greeks convicted to have corrupted books. For if they had corrupted so much of the Council in so many places: it is very likely that they would have also corrupted those places, wherein they are noted and discredited for such corruptions. Neither doth Anastasius report out of Theophanes, that the Greeks did so. Perhaps