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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The Council declareth that there were some copies of a former Council, that had been corrupted by heretics among the Greeks. But, as evil dealing doth still leave steppes behind it, whereby it may be traced out, otheir corruption was discovered both by circumstances of the thing, and by the manner of writing, and by conference with other copies. Now in these places of the sixth Council in which Honorius is touched: you can show no token of any such suspicion. Nay, the tokens all are clear to the contrary: even that which you allege of the Greeks convicted to have corrupted books. For if they had corrupted so much of the Council in so many places: it is very likely that they would have also corrupted those places, wherein they are noted and discredited for such corruptions. Neither doth Anastasius report out of Theophanes, that the Greeks did so. Perhaps ⟨p. 295⟩Father Robert did dream out of Onuphrius, that he had said so. But, although Onuphrius say more in that point then truth did afford: yet he saith not that. As for Anastasius: he is so far from saying it, that he gainsayeth it rather. For, pin his story of the Popes lives, he setteth Honorius down amongst the heretics who were condemned by the sixth Council. The same is confirmed qin an old copy of the seventh Council, which he translated out of Greek, and left it in the Popes library. And at the eight Council he was him self present, and put it into Latin most diligently and faithfully: there a Pope doth witness it. To be short, Torrensis addeth moreover touching Anastasius, that if he had suspected the Greeks to have corrupted any of the places concerning this matter: he would have given warning (no doubt) of it also, as he hath done of other. Wherefore, though ill disposed men amongst the Greeks corrupted books sometimes: yet the consent of copies, chiefly of the Latin *written shortly after the time of the Council & laid up at Rome, the coherence of things, the agreement of authors, and circumstances of the story, do make it very unlikely that they dealt so with the sixth Council in the matter of Honorius. It were pity that all evidences of men should be distrusted, because there are some evidences falsified by evil men. But Father Robert dealeth, as Alexander the great: who, when he could not undo the knot of Gordius, did cut it a sunder with his sword.