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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Take heed. You were better let the knot alone then undo it so. This medicine will do more harm, then the disease. In deed a great rCardinal, on whom you rely much, would play fast and loose with it in such sort upon the speech of Pope Adrian: who saith that Honorius was cursed by the Bishops of the East after his death, because he was accused of heresy. For hereupon he gathereth, that Honorius ⟨p. 296⟩was not an heretic while he lived, nor cursed by the Pope, or Bishops of the west. But it followeth straight in 2the speech of Adrian, (which the Cardinal cut off,) that unless the Pope had consented to it, the Bishops of the east would not have condemned him. Moreover, the acts of the Counc•ll show, how Bishops of the west were also 3present, and usubscribed. So that the sentence (given against Honorius) was given by the Council, and by the Pope him self, not by the eastern Bishops only. Wherefore if the epistles of Honorius were sound, on which, as unsound, he was condemned of heresy: then a general Council confirmed by the Pope did err in condemning him. And if you grant this, as you must by consequent: you betray the strongest castle of Popery, to save a captains honour. For men of judgement will think, that the doctrine of the reformed Churches may be sound, for which as unsound the Council of Trent confirmed by the Pope hath condemned us. They might condemn us unjustly.
Rainoldes. Take heede. You were better let the knot alone then vndoo it so. This medicine will do more harme, then the disease. In deede a great rCardinall, on whom you relie much, would play fast and loose with it in such sort vpon the spéech of Pope Adrian: who saith that Honorius was cursed by the Bishops of the East after his death, because he was accucused of heresie. For hereupon he gathereth, that Honorius ⟨p. 296⟩