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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. You need not prove a thing confessed. Common sense doth teach it. A ruler of a company may be a good man and an evil magistrate. King Alexander had two friends, of whom he called 1one, the kings friend; 2the other, Alexander's friend. The magistrate and the man, the king and Alexander, the office and the person, we do not deny a difference betwixt them. Neither did I mean that every such answer is a quirk and fancy. Pope iJohn the two and twentieth, when (upon a controversy about the beggary of Friars) there was alleged against him a saying of Pope Innocentius the fifth: *he said, that Innocentius had said it, not as Pope, but as Friar Peter of Tarantasia (that was his name, as a private man) in one of his postils. And this was well said of John. For when Innocentius was Pope, he had no leisure (I trow) to write postils: it is likely that he wrote them before he was Pope, when he was Friar Peter of Tarantasia. But as that distinction of [Pope] and [private man] is used by your doctors in the case of Honorius: so I said and say again, it is a quirk, a vain quirk and fancy. For that, which Honorius wrote, and was condemned for, he wrote it as Pope, not as a private man.
Rainoldes. You néede not proue a thing confessed. Common sense doth teach it. A ruler of a company may be a good man and an euill magistrate. King Alexander had two friends, of whom he called 1one, the kinges friend; 2the other, Alexanders friend. The magistrate and the man, the king and Alexander, the office and the person, we doo not deny a difference betwixt them. Neither did I meane that euery such answere is a quirke and fansie. Pope iIohn the two and twentieth, when (vpon a controuersie about the beggerie of Friers) there was alleaged against him a saying of Pope Innocentius the fifth: