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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. So did it ain Peter, that he denied Christ. And may you therefore say, that Peter was privileged not to deny Christ? I marvel that you feel not the grossness of your dealing. You say that hie Priests are privileged by their office to persevere in true doctrine. It is showed, that they fall to manifest Idolatry. You grant they do so: but they do it for fear, you say. Where is the privilege then? For God, to whom so ever he giveth any benefit as it were by privilege: he giveth them a privilege withal of special favour to free them from the lets that ⟨p. 303⟩might debar them of the benefit. bHezekiah was sick of a pestilent disease, whereof he should have died. cGod did add fifteen years to his life. dHe took away his sickness, that he might enjoy it. S. ePaul was in danger to be lost with shipwreck, and all the rest who sailed with him. fGod did give to him his own life, and theirs. gHe kept them all from danger and brought them safe unto the land. Wherefore if God had given a privilege of true doctrine to the hie Priests, he would have given them a privilege of grace too, that no deceit of flesh should make them fall away from it. But they might fall away from it by sundry means, to error, yea to Idolatry. For if they might for fear, why not for love also, has Solomon did? If for love: why not for hope? If for hope: why not for hatred? If for any of these, why not for other causes? It remaineth therefore, that either the hie Priests had not that privilege: or, if they had it, they had it with exception, that they should not err, unless either fear, or other cause did move them to it. Which if you affirm of Popes in like sort, as you seem to do by the example of Marcellinus: I will agree with you. For I am persuaded that no Pope can err, unless he be moved thereto by some cause, either blindness of mind, or lewdness of heart, or such humane affections.