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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Nay rather, that he cannot teach error, though he may err. As Pope Marcellinus, though he did commit, he did not teach idolatry.
Hart. Nay rather, that hee cannot teach errour, though hée may erre. As Pope Marcellinus, though he did commit, he did not teach idolatrie.
Rainoldes. Yes, he did teach it, by committing it. For, to teach, is to deliver the things that one knoweth, to him, who knoweth them not. The which that we may receive, that is, learn, God hath given us two senses: the hearing, and the sight. We hear words: we see deeds. The ministers of Christ, whom he hath ordained to teach the wisdom of his Father, the way to life eternal, ought to teach by both: that men may be edified by their words, which they hear; and by their deeds, which they see. Therefore S. Paul requireth in nTimothy, in oTitus, and in pall Bishops, that both their life be good, and their doctrine sound. And him self had run this race so before them, that, when he exhorted the Philippians to do whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, worthy love, and of good report: he was able to say, that by his preaching and living they had learned them; qwhich things you have heard and you have seen in me. Yea, it is so forcible to teach by living well: y• 5Chrysostom (commending S. Paul in that point) preferreth it before the other. It is very easy (saith he) to teach by words. Teach me by thy life. This is the best teaching. For words ⟨p. 205⟩