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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. I grant that he did teach it after a sort:1 but not as I meant. I meant he taught it not by preaching. In that he could not err. For as I said before, that the Pope in respect of his person may err, not in respect of his office: so I say farther, that his office privilegeth him in his sayings, not in his doings. sThe Scribes and the Pharisees (saith our Saviour Christ) do sit upon the chair of Moses. All things therefore, whatsoever they shall say unto you, observe ye, and do ye. But according to their works do ye not. For they say and do not.
Hart. I graunt that he did teach it after a sort:1 but not as I meant. I meant he taught it not by preaching. In that he could not erre. For as I saide before, that the Pope in respect of his person may erre, not in respect of his office: so I say farther, that his office priuilegeth him in his sayings, not in his doings. sThe Scribes and the Pharises (saith our Sauiour Christ) doo sit vpon the chaire of Moses. All thinges therefore, whatsoeuer they shall say vnto you, obserue ye, and doo ye. But according to their workes doo ye not. For they say and do not.
- 1The fourth division.The fourth diuision.
- sMatt. 23.2.
Rainoldes. What? will you also make odious comparisons of Popes to Scribes and Pharisees?