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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. If some of them were worse then the Scribes and Pharisees: my argument will hold yet. For (as D. uStapleton noteth out of xAustin, Christ, when he said of the Scribes and Pharisees, They sit upon the chair of Moses, meant not them alone, as though he sent Christians to the school of the Jews to learn religion there: but by the name of Scribes and Pharisees he signified, that certain in his Church would say and not do; and by the person of Moses he signified him self, for Moses was a figure of him. In like sort S. yChrysostom and zOrigen expound it too. He chargeth us therefore, to hear wicked preachers, professing God with their words, but denying him in their deeds: All things (saith he) whatsoever they shall say unto you, observe ye and do ye. Now the cause and reason thereof is given in this, because they sit upon the chair, 1because they hold the room of Christ, as Scribes and Pharisees did of Moses. For so doth our Saviour reason as it were: They sit upon the chair; therefore, that which they say must be observed, and done. aS. Austin handling these words hath excellently noted it. Christ (saith he) hath made his people secure concerning wicked Prelates, that men should not for their sakes forsake the chair of wholesome doctrine, in which even they who be wicked, are constrained to speak good things. And why are they constrained? For (saith he) they be not their own things, but the things of God, which they speak. And how may this be? Because (saith he) in the chair of unity, God hath set the doctrine of truth. And by what words hath he set it? or where? He addeth: Therefore of Prelates, who do their own evil things and speak the good things of God, he saith in the gospel, Do that they say, but do not that they do, for they say and do not. Thus saith Austin. In the same sense are these words expounded both by bAustin himself again, and by