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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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and the consequent thereof, that they cannot err in any thing they say: are children like their parents, as sound as the propositions of which they are begotten. The filthiness of all the which if yet you see not▪ behold an other light to see it by. The Scribes, amongst the Jews, were as the Canonists are with you; the Pharisees, as the Schoolmen: your pGenebrard doth match them so. Or, if you like not his judgement therein, because Schoolmen and ⟨p. 312⟩Canonists say not true in all things: yet this you must grant that Priests are with you, as Scribes and Pharisees were with them. For qChrysostom saith, (they be the very words which you did pass over for brevities sake:) we must not say now, In the chair of Moses, but, in the chair of Christ do the Priests sit: for they have received his doctrine. Which point (unless your former argument were naught) will prove that 1Priests cannot err no more then Popes. For they, who sit in Christs chair, have greater prerogative then they who sate in the chair of Moses: Priests, then Scribes and Pharisees. The Scribes and the Pharisees were to be obeyed in all things which they said. The Priests must be therefore much more obeyed in all things. But if they should err, then ought they not to be obeyed. Therefore they cannot err in any thing they say. Acknowledge you the form of your own argument? Doth not the conclusion follow as necessarily here, as there? And think you (M. Hart) that Priests cannot err? Think you that your self are of this perfection? that we ought to obey, both you, and your companions, in all things which you say? Or if you think not so fondly of them, so proudly of your self, as (I hope) you do not: then leave Doctor Stapletons exposition, which inferreth it; which he patcheth up with the words of Austin, Chrysostom, and Origen, whereas not one of them meant it. Yield rather (if you be wedded to Doctors of your own side) unto their authority, then whom the Church of Rome hath none of greater knowledge and perfecter judgement for right interpreting of the scriptures: I mean, John Ferus, & Arias Montanus. Of whom r