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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. And why do you deny it?
Rainoldes. And why doo you deny it?
Hart. Because Christ saith of them, they sit upon the chair of Moses. Whereby (to take your own exposition,) he meant, they teach as Moses did. Now, if they taught as Moses: then taught they not against the law; neither could they. For if they could teach against the law of God: then might that be false which was meant by Christ, that they teach as Moses.
Hart. Because Christ saith of them, they sit vpō the chaire of Moses. Whereby (to take your owne exposition,) he meant, they teach as Moses did. Now, if they taught as Moses: then taught they not against the law; neither could they. For if they could teach against the law of God: then might that bee false which was meant by Christ, that they teach as Moses.
Rainoldes. That reason holdeth not. For many speak the truth, who can lye, if need be: and many speak the truth in some things, who in all things do not. Christ respecteth that which the Scribes and Pharisees did ordinarily: they read the law in the Synagogues; they willed the people to observe it; yea, in outward things, as ceremonies, tithes, purifyings, and sabbaths, they did exact it most straitly. But as Paul said unto the high Priest, ithou sittest to judge me according to the law, and dost thou command me to be smitten against the law? so did they some times teach against the law, when they should teach according to it. And hereof is proof made by Christ him self: who therefore willed his disciples to beware of k