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Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs…Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs…
Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs of Christ, D. Nicolas Ridley late Bishop of London, and M. Hugh Latimer sometime Bishop of Worcester, during the time of their imprisonments. Whereunto is added. A treatise against the error of transubstantiation, made by the said reverend father D. Nicolas Ridley. M.D.LVI.Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs of Christe, D. Nicolas Rydley late Bysshoppe of London, and M. Hughe Latymer sometyme Bysshoppe of Worcester, during the tyme of their emprysonmentes. Whereunto is added. A treatise agaynst the errour of transubstantiation, made by the sayd reuerende father D. Nicolas Rydley. M.D.LVI.
Strasbourg: printed by the heirs of W. Rihel, 1556
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Although I would wish baptism to be given 1in the vulgar tongue for the peoples sake which are ⟨image 31⟩present / that they may the better understand their own profession / and also be more able to teach their children the same / yet notwithstanding there is not like necessity of the vulgar tongue in Baptism / and in the lords supper. Baptism is given to children / who by reason of their age are not able to understand what is spoken unto them what tongue soever it be. The lords supper / is / and ought to be given to them / that are waxen. More over / in Baptism which is accustomed to be given to children in the Latin tongue / all the substantial points (as a man would say) which Christ commanded to be done / are observed. And therefore I judge that Baptism / to be a perfect and true baptism: and that it is not only not needful / but also not lawful / for any man so Christened / to be Christened again. Butt yet notwithstanding / they ought to be taught the Catechism of the Christen faith / when they shall come to years of discretion: Which Catechism / who so ever despiseth / or will not desirously embrace / and willingly learn / in my judgement he playeth not the part of a Christian man. But in the popish mass are wanting certain substantials / that is to say / things commanded by the word of god to be observed in ministration of the lords supper: of the which there is sufficient declaration made before.
Althoughe I wolde wisshe baptisme to be geuē 1in the vulgar toung for the peoples sake which are ⟨image 31⟩presente / that they maye the better vnderstande theyr owne profession / and also be more hable to teache their childrē the same / yet notwithstanding ther is not lyke necessitee of the vulgare tounge in Baptisme / and in the lordes supper. Baptisme is geuē to children / who by reason of their aege are not able to vnderstande what is spoken vnto them what tounge soeuer it be. The lordes supper / is / and oughte to be geuen to them / that are wexen. More ouer / in Baptisme which is accustomed to be geuen to children in the Latin tounge / all the substantial poyntes (as a man wolde saye) which Christe commawnded to be doone / are obserued. And therfore I iudge that Baptisme / to be a perfecte and true baptisme: and that it is not only not nedefull / but also not lawfull / for anie man so Christened / to be Christened againe. Butt yet notwithstandynge / they oughte to be tawghte the Cathechisme of the Christen fayth / whan they shall come to yeares of discretion: Which Cathechisme / who so euer despiseth / or will not desirously embrace / and willingly learne / in my iudgemente he plaieth not the parte of a Christiane man. But in the popisshe masse are wantynge certeyne substantialles / that is to saye / thinges commawnded by the worde of godde to be obserued in ministration of the lordes supper: of the which ther is sufficient declaration made before.