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Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs…Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs…
Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, between the two reverend fathers, and holy martyrs of Christ, D. Nicolas Ridley late Bishop of London, and M. Hugh Latimer sometime Bishop of Worcester, during the time of their imprisonments. Whereunto is added. A treatise against the error of transubstantiation, made by the said reverend father D. Nicolas Ridley. M.D.LVI.Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs of Christe, D. Nicolas Rydley late Bysshoppe of London, and M. Hughe Latymer sometyme Bysshoppe of Worcester, during the tyme of their emprysonmentes. Whereunto is added. A treatise agaynst the errour of transubstantiation, made by the sayd reuerende father D. Nicolas Rydley. M.D.LVI.
Strasbourg: printed by the heirs of W. Rihel, 1556
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Now because these two answers have been of late soe confuted and confounded / 1that it is well perceived / that they will take no place / therefore some which have written sense that time / have forged two other answers even of the same mould.
Nowe because these two aunsweres haue bene of late soe confuted and confounded / 1that it is well perceiued / that they will take noe place / therfore some whiche haue written sence that tyme / haue forged two other answeres euē of the same mould.
- 1Vuinchester in the answer to the 166. objection.Vuinchester in the aunsvuer to the 166. obiection.
The former whereof is / that Origene in this place spake not of the Sacramental bread or wine of the lords table / but of an other mystical meat / of the which S. Augustin maketh mention to be given unto them that were taught the faith / before they were baptised. But Origenes own words in two sentences before rehearsed being put together / proveth this answer untrue: For he sayeth that he meaneth of that figurative and mystical body / which profiteth them that do receive it worthily / alluding so plainly unto S Pauls words ⟨p. 57⟩spoken of the Lords supper / that it is a shame for any learned man once to open his mouth to the contrary. And that bread which S Augustine speaketh of / he can not prove that any such thing was used in Origenes time: Yea and though that could be proved / yet was there never bread in any time called a sacramental body saving the sacramental bread of the Lords table / which is called of Origene / the typical / and symbolical body of Christ.
The former wherof is / that Origene in this place spake not of the Sacramentall breade or wyne of the lordes table / but of an other misticall meate / of the whiche S. Augustin maketh mencion to be geuen vnto them that were taughte the faith / before they were baptised. But Origenes owne wordes in two sentences before rehersed beinge put to gether / proueth this aunswere vntrue: For he saieth that he meneth of that figuratiue and misticall bodye / whiche profiteth them that doe receiue it worthyly / alluding so plainly vnto S Paules wordes