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The Common Places
The common places of the most famous and renowned divine Doctor Peter Martyr divided into four principal parts: with a large addition of many theological and necessary discourses, some never extant before. Translated and partly gathered by Anthony Marten, one of the sewers of her Majesties most honourable chamber.The common places of the most famous and renowmed diuine Doctor Peter Martyr diuided into foure principall parts: with a large addition of manie theologicall and necessarie discourses, some neuer extant before. Translated and partlie gathered by Anthonie Marten, one of the sewers of hir Maiesties most honourable chamber.
Imprinted at London : In Pater noster Rowe, by Henry Denham and Henry Middleton at the costs and charges of Henry Denham, Thomas Chard, William Broome, and Andrew Maunsell, 1583Imprinted at London : In Pater noster Rovve, by Henry Denham and Henry Middleton at the costs and charges of Henrie Denham, Thomas Chard, VVilliam Broome, and Andrew Maunsell, 1583
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9 But to the intent that those things, which I have spoken of concerning this matter, may the more certainly and plainly be understood, me thinketh it is good to confirm them by the testimony of some of the fathers. 1Chrysostom in the 14. Homily upon John saith, that Whatsoever the fathers of old time saw, it was of permission, but not of that pure and simple substance of God. And he addeth; If they had seen that substance, they should have seen every part like an other; for as much as it is pure, simple, and not to be described: wherefore it neither standeth, lieth, nor sitteth in such wise, as was sometimes showed unto the prophets. Moreover, he addeth, that GOD, before the coming of his son into flesh, exercised the fathers in such kind of visions & similitudes. And in that place granteth that, which we affirmed a little before, that the spirits created of God, such as be the angels and souls of men, cannot be seen with our bodily eyes. Wherefore it is much less to be believed, that we are able by our outward senses to attain to the knowledge of God.
9 But to the intent that those things, which I haue spoken of concerning this matter, may the more certeinlie and plainlie be vnderstood, me thinketh it is good to confirme them by the testimonie of some of the fathers. 1Chrysostom in the 14. Homilie vpon Iohn saith, that Whatsoeuer the fathers of old time sawe, it was of permission, but not of that pure and simple substance of God. And he addeth; If they had séene that substance, they should haue séene euery part like an other; for as much as it is pure, simple, and not to be described: wherfore it neither standeth, lieth, nor sitteth in such wise, as was sometimes shewed vnto the prophets. Moreouer, he addeth, that GOD, before the comming of his sonne into flesh, exercised the fathers in such kind of visions & similitudes. And in that place granteth that, which we affirmed a little before, that the spirits created of God, such as be the angels and soules of men, cannot be séene with our bodilie eies. Wherefore it is much lesse to be beléeued, that we are able by our outward senses to attaine to the knowledge of God.
- 1Chrysost.