A14350:890
The Common Places
The common places of the most famous and renowned divine Doctor Peter Martyr divided into four principal parts: with a large addition of many theological and necessary discourses, some never extant before. Translated and partly gathered by Anthony Marten, one of the sewers of her Majesties most honourable chamber.The common places of the most famous and renowmed diuine Doctor Peter Martyr diuided into foure principall parts: with a large addition of manie theologicall and necessarie discourses, some neuer extant before. Translated and partlie gathered by Anthonie Marten, one of the sewers of hir Maiesties most honourable chamber.
Imprinted at London : In Pater noster Rowe, by Henry Denham and Henry Middleton at the costs and charges of Henry Denham, Thomas Chard, William Broome, and Andrew Maunsell, 1583Imprinted at London : In Pater noster Rovve, by Henry Denham and Henry Middleton at the costs and charges of Henrie Denham, Thomas Chard, VVilliam Broome, and Andrew Maunsell, 1583
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9 But in the mean time let us make answer to those reasons, which seemed to persuade us otherwise. James, when he denieth that God doth tempt, 1doth not utterly deny it; but he denieth him to tempt after that manner, which those carnal christians of his time affirmed him to tempt: as who should say, when they sinned, they should have been without blame: as our Libertines are reported to say at this day, namely that God doth all things in us; and that therefore sin is nothing: no not robberies, murders, adulteries, and such like. Indeed we grant, that God doth all things; but the respect of Gods doing, and our doing of them is divers. Men, in that they do those things, they sin; as they which are not led unto those things of an intent that they may work together with God; neither are they constrained or compelled unto those things against their wills; nay rather, they would be angry with them that should let them from sinning. Wherefore let them ask their own conscience, & then they shall plainly see, whether they sin against their will, or to the intent they may gratify God; or else not rather to satisfy their own unbridled lust.
9 But in the meane time let vs make answere to those reasons, which séemed to persuade vs otherwise. Iames, when he denieth that God dooth tempt, 1dooth not vtterlie denie it; but he denieth him to tempt after that maner, which those carnall christians of his time affirmed him to tempt: as who should saie, when they sinned, they should haue béene without blame: as our Libertines are reported to saie at this daie, namelie that God dooth all things in vs; and that therefore sinne is nothing: no not robberies, murthers, adulteries, and such like. Indéed we grant, that God dooth all things; but the respect of Gods dooing, and our dooing of them is diuers. Men, in that they doo those things, they sinne; as they which are not led vnto those things of an intent that they may worke togither with God; neither are they constreined or compelled vnto those things against their wils; naie rather, they would be angry with them that should let them from sinning. Wherefore let them aske their owne conscience, & then they shall plainlie sée, whether they sinne against their will, or to the intent they may gratifie God; or else not rather to satisfie their owne vnbrideled lust.