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The first part of the Christian instruction, and general so[m]me of the doctrine, contained in the holy Scriptures wherein the principal points of the religion are familiarly handled by dialogues, very necessary to be read of all Christians. Translated into English, by John Shute, according to the late copy set forth, by th'author Master Peter Viret. 1565. Overseen and perused, according to the order appointed, by the Queens majesties injunctions.The firste parte of the Christian instruction, and generall so[m]me of the doctrine, conteyned in the holy Scriptures wherein the principall pointes of the religion are familiarly handled by dialogues, very necessary to be read of all Christians. Translated into Englishe, by Iohn Shute, accordyng to the late copy set forth, by th'author Maister Peter Viret. 1565. Ouersene and perused, accordyng to the order appointed, by the Queenes maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by John Day, 1565London: printed by Iohn Day, 1565
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D. IN deed it is very well said of thee, for our Saviour Jesus Christ doth call him not only a liar, but also the father 1of lies. For albeit that God did create him an Angel, and in the same truth that is in God: yet he could not so continue, but did fall from truth into lies, which is the original of all other evils, even as truth is the fountain of 2all goodness. He is also called a manslayer and a murderer from the beginning. And because that Cain did by and by follow him, S. John sayeth that he is the son of the devil, 3and that he slew his brother because he was of the wicked. And in the same place he saith also: he that sinneth is of the devil: for the devil sinneth even from the beginning. In the which Saint John hath followed the manner of speaking of his master Jesus Christ: who called the Jews, children 4of the devil: for that they were liars and murderers of the servants of God, and of him which was and is the very ⟨p. 9⟩son of God, which thing proceeded of the very hatred that they had against the truth, which was preached unto them by Jesus Christ and his Disciples.
D. IN dede it is very well sayd of thee, for our Sauiour Iesus Christ doth call him not onely a lyar, but also the father 1of lyes. For albeit that God did creat hym an Angell, and in ye same truth that is in God: yet he could not so continue, but did falle from truth into lyes, whiche is the originall of all other euils, euen as truth is the fountaine of 2all goodnes. He is also called a mansleyar and a murderer from the begynning. And bycause that Cain did by and by folow him, S. Iohn sayeth that he is the sonne of the deuill, 3and that he slew his brother bycause he was of the wicked. And in the same place he saith also: he that sinneth is of the deuil: for the deuil sinneth euen from the begynning. In the whiche Saint Iohn hath folowed the maner of speakyng of his master Iesus Christe: who called the Iewes, childrē 4of the deuill: for that they were lyars and murderers of the seruauntes of God, and of hym whiche was and is the very ⟨p. 9⟩sonne of God, which thyng proceded of the very hatred that they had agaynst the truth, which was preached vnto them by Iesus Christ and his Disciples.
T. IT followeth then by this account, that such as follow and do the work of the devil, are the devils sons & successors. D. The matter is plain, wherefore thou mayest easily perceive by this what predecessors such kind of men may allege, that will follow any other order of life, then that which hath ben taught us by God: & what cause they have to glory of auncientie and of old worlds. Let them them allege the devil for their most ancient father, and with his lies fight against the eternal truth of God: let the manslayers and murderers allege Cain, and the Sodomites, those whose name they bear. All these kinds of men and all other wicked ones have fathers very ancient, they do follow one doctrine and one sort of life, which is very ancient: but truth, virtue, holiness, innocency, & God which is there father, are yet more ancient, for the devil, sin, and lies, of the which he is author, have had their beginning, and reign, and therefore they shall once have an end. But God is eternal, without beginning and without end, and so is his truth, whereof he is father, and of all virtues else. And therefore God doth not only not support heresies, errors, superstitions and Idolatries, because of their auncientie: but contrarily he threateneth the Idolaters and wicked ones, that the longer that they have continued in sin and followed the same, the greater vengeance he will send upon them. Wherefore it is spoken by the Prophet Isaiah: Behold 1it is written before me, I will no longer hold my peace, but will yield and throw into their bosoms, your iniquities, with the iniquities of your fathers also, saith the Lord, ⟨p. 10⟩and immediately after: whereby I will yield again unto them in their bosom the measure of their first work. The Lord speaketh this upon good occasion, for if the father have ben wicked, and the son is yet more wicked, the iniquity of the father doth not amend that of the son, and make it virtue and not vice. T. No, but doth increase it much more, for the more of our predecessors that have ben rebels against God, so much the greater is our fault. D.
T. IT foloweth then by this accoumpt, that such as folow and do the worke of the deuill, ar ye deuils sonnes & successours. D. The matter is playne, wherfore thou mayest easely perceyue by this what predecessours such kynd of mē may alledge, that will folow any other order of lyfe, then yt whiche hath ben taught vs by God: & what cause they haue to glory of auncientie and of old worldes. Let them thē alledge the deuill for their most auncient father, and with his lyes fight against the eternal truth of God: let the mansleaers and murderers alledge Cain, and the Sodomites, those whose name they beare. All these kyndes of mē and al other wicked ones haue fathers very auncient, they do folow one doctrine and one sorte of lyfe, whiche is very auncient: but truth, vertue, holynes, innocencie, & God which is there father, are yet more auncient, for the deuil, sinne, and lyes, of the whiche he is author, haue had their begynnynge, and raigne, and therfore they shall once haue an ende. But God is eternall, without begynning and without end, and so is his truth, whereof he is father, and of all vertues els. And therfore God doth not onely not supporte heresies, errours, superstitions and Idolatries, bycause of their auncientie: but contrarylye he threateneth the Idolaters and wicked ones, that the longer that they haue continued in sinne and folowed the same, the greater vengeaunce he will send vppon them. Wherfore it is spoken by the Prophet Esay: Behold
It seemeth unto me, that those which allege their predecessors & auncientie, to maintain thereby their errors and abuse, do even like as doth a traitor, which would excuse and purge him self to ward his prince, whom he hath offended, through his treasons, that should allege in his defence that his predecessors have alway been traitors, & lived in the like infidelity towards their princes, as he hath done towards his. Thinkest thou not y• this excuse were very lawful & mete to appease the prince? T. Even so mete that it mought occasion him to cut clean from the earth so wicked a race, to the end they should never be any more heard of. D. It is even so.
It semeth vnto me, that those which alledge their predecessors & aūcientie, to maintaine therby their errors and abuse, do euen like as doth a traitor, whiche would excuse and purge him selfe to ward his prince, whom he hath offēded, through his treasons, that should alledge in his defence that his predecessours haue alway bene traitours, & liued in ye like infidelitie towardes their prīces, as he hath done towardes his. Thinckest thou not y• this excuse wer very lawful & mete to appease the prince? T. Euē so mete that it mought occasiō him to cut cleane frō the earth so wicked a race, to the ende they should neuer be any more heard of. D. It is euen so.
T. For so much as it is so, it seemeth unto me, that if auncientie might have place, there are none that may so well allege auncientie as may the true children of God. D. No man may deny it. For God is the ancient of all worlds, 1the first & the last, whose truth they follow, by the which they are made his true & lawful children. Wherefore these men may lawfully allege, & command unto their children, that which the Lord spake by Jeremiah, search you out among 2the ancient paths, which is the good way, & walk in the same. T. I do think that those reasons, which thou hast alleged, are sufficient enough to confute and shame those kinds of men, ye use these colours of predecessors, of the multitude, ⟨p. 11⟩of times, & ages, to cloak therewith their disobedience & rebellion against the word of God: for when all is said there is but one thing, that hindereth all this, to wit that such men will not be obedient to the voice of the Lord, nor take coū sell of him, nor follow him. But for so much as they dare not say and declare the same openly, because that they will not be known to be such as they are in deed, but would be thought of men to be honest, and such as fear God, they seek these shifts and starting holes. They are like to those advocates that plead an evil cause, who have determined to do no right to their contrary party, but seek only by cavilling, how to shift out the matter, because that they will never be enforced to grow to any honest end.
T. FOr so muche as it is so, it semeth vnto me, that if auncientie might haue place, there are none that may so wel alledge auncientie as may the true childrē of God. D. No mā may deny yt. For God is the aunciēt of all worldes, 1the first & the last, whose truth they folow, by the which they are made his true & lawfull children. Wherfore these men may lawfully alledge, & cōmaunde vnto their children, that whiche the Lord spake by Ieremy, searche you out among 2the auncient pathes, whiche is the good way, & walke in the same. T. I do thincke that those reasons, whiche thou hast alledged, are sufficient ynoughe to confute and shame those kindes of mē, ye vse these colours of predecessours, of ye multitude,
D. Thou hast stricken the white in the middest, and haste touched the very pith of that universal disease that reigneth through out the world, the which Jesus Christ doth thoroughly open unto us, when he sayeth, speaking of his doctrine: That he, that is desirous to do the, will of his 1father, shall soon know whether it be of God or no. There is but one thing, that disguiseth this whole matter: which is that some of them can cover and cloak otherwise and more finely then can the others. T. It is certain, without any circumlocution, that those which search out such starting holes, should rather say even at one word, that which the wicked ones spake, of whom the Scripture in the book of the Prophets declareth saying, we have nothing to do with 2God: We will not know his ways: nor walk in the same, nor yet bear his yoke. D. It is very true. But that should not be so honourable for them: nor have so good a grace. For although they speak it in their heart, they will in no wise that the world understand it, yea and that which is more vile, they are so beastly, & do so much delight in their ⟨p. 12⟩folly and filthy sophistry, that they think even by the same to be able to abuse and mock God, even as they abuse and mock men: as though he saw not the wickedness of their hearts, and wanted wisdom & understanding how to trap the subtle and crafty in their cautels and finesses.
D. THou hast stricken the white in the middest, and haste touched the very pithe of that vniuersall disease that raygneth throughe out the worlde, the whiche Iesus Christ doth thorowly open vnto vs, when he sayeth, speakyng of hys doctrine: That he, that is desirous to do the, will of hys 1father, shall soone knowe whether it be of God or no. There is but one thing, that disguiseth this whole matter: which is that some of them can couer and cloke otherwise and more finely then can the others. T. It is certayne, without any circumlocution, that those whiche searche out such starting holes, should rather say euen at one worde, that whiche the wicked ones spake, of whom the Scripture in the boke of ye Prophetes declareth sayinge, we haue nothyng to do with
T. Now if those of whom we have already spoken, have very slender reason to allege: how do you think of those that are not contented with such excuses, but employ their whole forces to persecute the truth of God, and as many as will teach & follow the same? D. There are three sorts of these kind of people: there are of them that persecute the truth and those that follow it, of a certain malice, even against the witness that the spirit of God yieldeth in their own consciences, only for hatred that they bear against God and his truth. There are also others which do it not so much for hatred that they bear against the truth, as for the honours and riches which they hope to obtain, by resisting the same, or else that they have already obtained. The third are those that do the like through ignorance.
T. NOw if those of whō we haue already spoken, haue very slender reason to alledge: howe do you thincke of those that are not contented with such excuses, but employ their whole forces to persecute the truth of God, and as many as will teach & folow the same? D. There are thre sortes of these kinde of people: there are of them that persecute the truth and those that folowe it, of a certaine malice, euen against the witnesse that ye spirit of God yeldeth in their own consciences, onely for hatred that they beare agaynste God and his truth. There ar also others which do it not so much for hatered that they beare agaynst the truth, as for the honors and riches which they hope to obtaine, by resisting the same, or els that they haue already obtayned. The third are those that do the like throughe ignoraunce.
T. What sayest thou of the first sort of those men? D. I say that they are of the very nature of the devil, for he hath no cause to hate God, and his truth, but only of the wickedness that is in him, and of the envy and immortal hatred that he doth bear to God and his truth. T. Then is the sin of such men like to the sin of the devil. D. It is even so, wherefore they shall have like punishment, for they shall never obtain pardon nor grace. T. It is then that sin that Jesus Christ doth call the sin against the holy Ghost, and saint John, sin unto death, for the which 1he forbiddeth men to pray. But thinkest thou that there are any so wicked and so full of malice upon the earth, that ⟨p. 13⟩will so of purpose make wars against God? D. If there were none, then would none have been found among the Scribes and Pharisees, and the rest of the Jews, before whom Jesus Christ made mention of the sin against the holy Ghost. I do think he would have holden no such purpose, ne yet Saint John neither. And I am well assured that Alexander the Coppersmith, of whom Saint Paul complaineth much, writing to Timothy, did very near approach the nature of such, if he were not fully such an one, or else I should greatly marvel of the prayer that saint Paul maketh 2against him saying: Alexander the Coppersmith hath done me great hurt, the Lord reward him according to his deserts, of whom be thou ware also, for he hath greatly resisted our preaching. If he had offended rather of ignorance, then of malice, I believe that Saint Paul would rather have prayed for him, as he did in the same epistle for others, with whom he was not well pleased, I doubt not but he would have followed the example of Jesus Christ, and of saint Steven, who prayed for their persecutors, rather then to have prayed against him. For it seemeth that he had no hope of his conversion and health. T. Men may call these kind of men the most wicked of all wicked, and the eldest sons of the devil. But it is wonderful to see them so wicked, and to see them so despitefully to make wars against God and his truth, and yet they will cover them with the name of God, & of the zeal of his glory.
T. WHat sayest thou of the first sorte of those men? D. I say that they are of the very nature of the deuill, for he hath no cause to hate God, and his truth, but onely of the wickednes that is in hym, and of the enuie and immortall hatered that he doth beare to God and his truth. T. Then is the sinne of suche men lyke to the sinne of the deuill. D. It is euen so, wherfore they shall haue lyke punishment, for they shall neuer obtayne pardon nor grace. T. It is then that sinne that Iesus Christ doth call the sinne agaynst the holy Ghost, and saint Iohn, sinne vnto death, for the which
For there is none, be he never so evil, if he be not utterly desperate, but when he persecuteth the truth, he will pretend to favour the same, and would that men should think that he persecuteth not the truth, but error and lies, for the maintenance of Gods truth. D. The matter is very apparent, namely in the Scribes and Pharisees, and in the bishops, high Priests, & Princes of Jerusalem, which crucified Jesus Christ, and 1yet feigned that they persecuted him for blaspheming▪ the majesty of God. Wherefore the more that such men so villainously ⟨p. 14⟩abuse the name of God, wherewith to cover their murders and wickedness, the more are they accursed and worthy of greater judgement.
For ther is none, be he neuer so euil, if he be not vtterly desperate, but when he persecuteth the truth, he wil pretend to fauour the same, and would that men should thinke that he persecuteth not the truth, but errour and lyes, for the mayntenāce of Gods truth. D. The matter is verye apparant, namelye in the Scribes and Phariseis, and in the bishops, high Priestes, & Princes of Ierusalem, which crucified Iesus Christe, and 1yet fayned that they persecuted him for blasphemyng▪ the maiesty of God. Wherfore the more that suche men so villanously ⟨p. 14⟩abuse the name of God, wherewith to couer their murders and wickednes, the more are they accursed and worthie of greater iudgement.