A14463:2036
A14463:2036
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. Declare unto me then wherein they do agree, and wherein they do differ.
M. DEclare vnto me then wherin they do agrée, and wherin they doe differ.
Peter. For the first, if they do understand that the body and the blood of Jesus Christ be with the bread and the wine, in their own nature and substance, and by a natural, corporal and material manner as the bread and the wine are there, they agree therein with the error of transubstantiation.
Peter. For the first, if they doe vnderstande that the bodie and the bloud of Iesus Christe bée wyth the breade and the wine, in their own nature and substance, and by a naturall, corporall and materiall maner as the bread and the wyne are there, they agrée therin with the erroure of transubstantiation.
M. It seemeth to me that they draw well to one point, saving that they make no transubstantiation ⟨p. 321⟩nor change of the bread and of the wine, into the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
M. It séemeth to mée that they drawe well to one poynte, sauing that they make no transubstantiation ⟨p. 321⟩nor chaunge of the breade and of the wine, into the body and bloude of Iesus Christ.
P. Thou seest it plainly, & by that which we have already said, thou mayest well understand, that such a natural and corporal presence of the body and of the blood of Jesus Christ in the Supper, should be clean contrary to the nature of a spiritual nurture, the which is there set forth unto us, and likewise to the man ner of eating of the body and the flesh, and the drinking of the blood of Jesus Christ, according to the which they may be eaten and drunken for spiritual meat & drink.
P. Thou séest it plainely, & by that whiche we haue alredy sayde, thou mayest well vnderstand, that such a naturall and corporall presence of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ in the Supper, should be cleane contrary to the nature of a spirituall nouriture, the whiche is there set foorth vnto vs, and likewise to the mā ner of eating of the body and the flesh, and the drinking of the bloud of Iesus Christ, according to the whiche they may be eatē and dronkē for spirituall meate & drinke.
MATTHEW. I Have well understood that thou hast said that we must be nourished with spiritual meat and nurture into eternal life, and that by a spiritual manner, agreeable to the spiritual birth and life, into the which we are regenerate by baptism, and according to the testimony of God which is set forth unto us in the same concerning our regeneration.
MATHEVV. I Haue well vnderstoode that thou hast sayde that we must be nourished with spirituall meate and nouriture into eternall life, and that by a spirituall maner, agreable to the spirituall birth and life, into ye which we are regenerate by baptisme, and according to the testimonie of God which is set foorth vnto vs in ye same concerning our regeneration.
P. That which thou sayest may serve us very much to the understanding of the matter which we now handle. For thou doest well know that we are not regenerate in baptism, by any corporal or material seed of the body and of the blood of Jesus Christ, nor by any natural manner, as we are naturally begotten by our fathers & mothers.
P. That whiche thou sayest maye serue vs very much to the vnderstanding of the matter which we now hādle. For thou doest wel know that we are not regenerate in baptisme, by any corporall or material séede of the body and of the bloude of Iesus Christe, nor by any naturall manner, as we are naturally begotten by our fathers & mothers.
M. I know well also that we may not enter again into our mothers womb,1 as Nicodeme said to Jesus christ, to be borne a new once more, as we are already once borne.
M. I know well also that we may not enter againe into our mothers womb,1 as Nicodeme said to Iesus christ, to be borne a new once more, as we are already once borne.
P. And therefore I doubt not but that thou doest well understand that that regeneration and new birth is wrought by a seed incorruptible, spiritual and divine, by the which we are ⟨p. 323⟩begotten into the Church by the virtue of the holy Ghost, by whom we are regenerate into a new life.
P. And therefore I doubt not but that thou doest well vnderstande that that regeneration and newe birth is wrought by a séede incorruptible, spiritual and diuine, by the which we are ⟨p. 323⟩begotten into the Churche by the vertue of the holy Ghoste, by whome we are regenerate into a new life.
M. IT is not also said, that Jesus Christ doth give his body and his blood in Baptism, as he doth in the supper, like wise the water is not called therein the body and the blood of Jesus Christ, as Jesus Christ doth in the Supper call the bread & the wine by the name of them.
M. IT is not also said, that Iesus Christ doth giue his body and his bloud in Baptisme, as he doth in the supper, like wise the water is not called therein the body and the bloud of Iesus Christe, as Iesus Christ doth in the Supper call the bread & the wine by the name of them.
P. Albeit ye the water be not there called in baptism by that name, dost thou think for all that, that the body and blood of Jesus Christ be not there distributed and communicated unto thee in the same, as well as in the Supper?
P. Albeit ye the water be not there called in baptisme by that name, dost thou thinke for all that, that the body and bloude of Iesus Christ be not there distributed and communicated vnto thée in the same, as well as in the Supper?
M. I do not so understand it.
M. I do not so vnderstand it.
P. Thou wilt then ordain a Baptism without Jesus Christ.
P. Thou wilte then ordeyne a Baptisme withoute Iesus Christe.
M. Wherefore?
M. Wherfore?