A14463:2049
A Christian instruction, containing the law and the Gospel Also a summary of the principal points of the Christian faith and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certain dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Province. Translated by I.S. Seen and allowed according to the Queens Majesties injunctions.A Christian instruction, conteyning the law and the Gospell Also a summarie of the principall poyntes of the Christian fayth and religion, and of the abuses and errors contrary to the same. Done in certayne dialogues in french, by M. Peter Viret, sometime minister of the Word of God at Nymes in Prouince. Translated by I.S. Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.
London: printed by Henry Bynneman? for Abraham Veale, 1573
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
M. I do not so understand it.
M. I do not so vnderstand it.
P. Thou wilt then ordain a Baptism without Jesus Christ.
P. Thou wilte then ordeyne a Baptisme withoute Iesus Christe.
M. Wherefore?
M. Wherfore?
P. Because thou canst not have Jesus Christ, except thou have him wholly, and very God and very man, and that thou have true communion with his body & with his blood, not only in the supper, but also in baptism.
P. Bycause thou cāst not haue Iesus Christ, except thou haue him wholy, and very God and very man, and that thou haue true communion with his body & with his bloud, not only in ye supper, but also in baptisme.
M. Show me the cause thereof.
M. Shewe me the cause thereof.
P. It is because that the Baptism doth no less send us to the death ⟨p. 324⟩and passion, and to the body and blood of Jesus Christ, than doth the Supper, for so much as that is proper to all sacraments.
P. It is bycause yt the Baptisme doth no lesse sende vs to the deathe ⟨p. 324⟩and passion, and to the body and bloud of Iesus Christe, than doth the Supper, for somuch as that is proper to al sacramēts.
M. IT seemeth to me that thou speakest against that which thou hast said heretofore, touching the difference which thou hast put between baptism and the Supper, for it seemeth that thou speakest now, as though baptism & the supper were one very Sacrament, and that there were no difference between them.
M. IT séemeth to me that thou speakest against that whiche thou hast sayde heretofore, touching the difference which thou hast put betwene baptisme and the Supper, for it séemeth that thou speakest now, as though baptisme & the supper were one very Sacramente, and that there were no difference betwene them.
P. Thou makest an evil conclusion. For albeit that we do as well participate of the body and of the blood of Jesus Christ in baptism as in the Supper, yet notwithstanding, there is difference in the participation and in the manner thereof, in respect of the benefits of Jesus Christ, which are signified and communicated unto us as well in the one of the sacraments as in the other.
P. Thou makest an euill conclusion. For albeit that we doe as well participate of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ in baptisme as in the Supper, yet notwithstanding, there is difference in the participation and in the manner thereof, in respect of the benefites of Iesus Christ, whiche are signified and communicated vnto vs as wel in ye one of the sacramēts as in the other.
M. I have not them well understood thee yet heretofore, and therefore declare unto me more easily that which ⟨p. 325⟩thou now speakest of.
M. I haue not thē wel vnderstoode thée yet heretofore, and therfore declare vnto me more easily that whiche ⟨p. 325⟩thou now speakest of.
P. Although the body of Jesus Christ be not given unto us in baptism as for spiritual food, as it is in the Supper, that notwithstanding it is there given unto us in very deed, as a garment of innocency, of Justice and of holiness to cover all our sins before God. And therefore S. Paul saith, that all those which are baptised, have put on them Jesus Christ.
P. Although the body of Iesus Christe be not giuen vnto vs in baptisme as for spirituall foode, as it is in the Supper, that notwithstanding it is there giuen vnto vs in very déede, as a garment of innocencie, of Iustice and of holynesse to couer all our sinnes before God. And therefore S. Paule saith, that all those which are baptised, haue put on them Iesus Christ.
P. Albeit that it be not given unto us in Baptism, as for drink as it is in the supper, yet notwithstanding it is there given unto us for a spiritual washing of our souls and consciences, whereby Jesus Christ doth purify and cleanse his Church in this laver of regeneration, to the end that he may make it pure, clean, without spot or wrinkle and a holy and glorious Church.
P. Albeit that it be not giuen vnto vs in Baptisme, as for drinke as it is in the supper, yet notwithstāding it is there giuen vnto vs for a spirituall washing of our soules and consciences, whereby Iesus Christe dothe purifie and clense his Church in this lauer of regeneration, to the ende that he may make it pure, cleane, withoute spotte or wrinkle and a holy and glorious Churche.
M. I did never yet so well understand these two points, nor yet the diversity and difference that thou hast made between the benefits of Jesus Christ, and the Baptism and the Supper which are Sacraments, as now I do understand all these things.
M. I did neuer yet so well vnderstande these two pointes, nor yet the diuersitie and difference that thou hast made betwene the benefites of Iesus Christe, and the Baptisme and the Supper whiche are Sacramentes, as now I do vnderstande all these things.
P. When I tell thee that the baptism declareth unto us how that Jesus Christ is set forth unto us in baptism, for a robe of innocency, Justice, & holiness, and that we cloth our self with him by mean of the same, I do not think thee to be of so gross an understanding, to think, that the faithful do put on Jesus Christ naturally and corporally, as a man putteth on a garment or a cloak.
P. WHen I tell thée that the baptisme declareth vnto vs howe that Iesus Christe is set foorthe vnto vs in baptisme, for a robe of innocencie, Iustice, & holynes, and that we cloth our selfe with him by meane of ye same, I do not thinke thée to be of so grosse an vnderstanding, to thinke, that the faithfull do put on Iesus Christ naturally and corporally, as a man putteth on a garment or a cloke.