A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

In the second collection / where you would give to understand / that ceremonies and external discipline / are not prescribed particularly by the word of God / and therefore left to the order of the church: you must understand / that all external discipline / is not left to the order of the church / being particularly prescribed ⟨p. 33⟩in the scriptures: no more then all ceremonies are left to the order of the church / as the sacraments of baptism / and the supper of the Lord: whereas / upon the indefinite speaking of M. Calvin / saying ceremonies and external discipline, without adding / all or some / you go about subtly to make men believe / that M. Calvin had placed the whole external discipline / in the power and arbitrement of the church. For if all external discipline were arbitrary / and in the choice of the church / Excommunication also (which is a part of it) might be cast away / which I think you will not say. But if that M. Calvin were alive to hear his sentences racked and writhen / to establish those things / which he strove so mightily to overthrow / and to overthrow those things that he laboured so sore to establish / what might he say? and the injury which is done to him / is nothing less because he is dead.

In the second collection / where you would geue to vnderstande / that ceremonies and externall discipline / are not prescribed particularly by the worde of God / and therfore left to the order of the church: you must vnderstande / that all externall discipline / is not left to the order of the churche / being particularly prescribed ⟨p. 33⟩in the scriptures: no more then all ceremonies are left to the order of the church / as the sacraments of baptisme / and the supper of the Lord: wheras / vpon the indefinite speaking of M. Caluin / saying ceremonies and externall discipline, wythout adding / all or some / you goe about subtelly to make men beleeue / that M. Caluin had placed the whole external discipline / in the power and arbitrement of the churche. For if all externall discipline were arbitrarie / and in the choise of the church / Excommunication also (whych is a part of it) might be cast away / which I thinke you will not say. But if that M. Caluin were aliue to heare hys sentences racked and wrythen / to establishe those thyngs / whych he stroue so mightely to ouerthrow / and to ouerthrow those things that he laboured so sore to establishe / what might he say? and the iniurie which is done to him / is nothing les because he is deade.