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A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Further / they have no reasonable space given them / wherein they may inquire or hearken out of his honest conversation: and have some experience of his soundness in teaching and discretion and judgement to rule his flock. But if as soon as ever it be said / to those that are strangers that they should object against them / no man stand forth to object any thing / forthwith he is made a minister. And these are those things wherein I think the book of ordering Ministers faulty / touching the trial and examination of the ministers / which self same things are likewise of the trial of the Deacon. And so you see / that besides the faults of those that execute the law / that there be faults in the laws themselves / and therefore the cause is truly assigned / although you see it not.
Further / they haue no reasonable space geuen them / wherein they may inquire or hearken out of hys honest conuersation: and haue some experyence of hys soundnesse in teaching and discretion and iudgement to rule hys flocke. But if as sone as euer it be sayde / to those that are straungers that they should obiect agaynst them / no mā stand forth to obiect any thing / forthwith he is made a mynister. And these are those things wherein I thinke the booke of ordering Mynisters faultie / touching the tryall and examynation of the mynisters / whiche selfe same thinges are lykewyse of the tryall of the Deacon. And so you see / that besydes the faultes of those that execute the lawe / that there bee faultes in the lawes themselues / and therefore the cause is truely assygned / althoughe you see it not.
And what mean you / still to use this fighting with your own shadow? for where are the words / or what be they that condemn all the Ministers / for some? that say all the Ministers are unlawfully admitted / for some? or that there is none good / because some are bad? If there be no such words / as carry with them any such sense / then you do wrong to your brethren. If there be words that declare the clean contrary / then all men see what you be / which although you often fault in / yet I am loth so often to name and charge you with it. When it is said / that learned and unlearned are received / it is evident that they condemn not all.