A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

The same manner of speech is used of the Roman stories / wherein it is said that the Consul did make Magistrates / for because that he gathered the assembly and voices whereby they were made: and so S. Luke saith here / that Paul and Barnabas ordained / because they being the moderators of the Election / caused it to be made / assembled the churches / told them of the necessity of having good pastors and governors / gathered the voices / took heed that nothing should be done lightly / nothing tumultuously / or out of order. And so to conclude / it is an evil reason to say as M. Doctor doth / that because S. Luke hath / that Paul and Barnabas ordained / therefore the people were excluded.

The same manner of speach is vsed of the Romane stories / wherein it is sayd that the Consull dyd make Magistrates / for because that he gathered the assembly and voyces whereby they were made: and so S. Luke sayth heere / that Paul and Barnabas ordayned / because they being the moderators of the Election / caused it to be made / assembled the churches / tolde them of the necessitie of hauing good pastors and gouernors / gathered the voices / tooke heede that nothing should be done lightly / nothing tumultuously / or out of order. And so to conclude / it is an euill reason to say as M. Doctor doth / that because S. Luke hath / that Paule and Barnabas ordayned / therefore the people were excluded.

And I marvel with what conscience he could answer so in this place / especially where it is forthwith added / that they ordained them by the suffrages and voices of the church. But you say that the Greek word cheirotonein, is by the common opinion of almost all Ecclesiastical writers / used in the scripture for the solemn manner of ordaining of ministers by the imposition of hands / which is ⟨p. 45⟩the second exception you take to this reason. Wherein / but that I have promised to hold my self to the matter / and that these bold asseverances in matters most untrue / are so common / that if I should every foot pursue them / I should weary my self and all others / I could not keep my self from running out to marvel at such high speeches / void of truth. First / where you say that some translation hath / that they ordained ministers without making mention of election / what have you gained thereby / when I can show moe that translate it otherwise / and say it is that they ordained by election / or voices / or suffrages? I had not the commodity of books / whereby I could see the judgement of all Ecclesiastical writers. But of those which I had / I find that there was but one only M. Gualter of that mind / and yet he doth not shut out the peoples consent in the election. Master Calvin / M. Beza / M. Bullinger / M. Musculus / M. Brentius / he that translated Chrysostom upon that place / Erasmus in his Paraphrases upon that place / are of the contrary judgement / of whose judgement I would not have spoken / if you would not have gone about thus to abuse your reader / with such manifest untruths / to overthrow the order which God hath established.