A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

For to prove the Baptism of children and young infants / what stronger hold have we / then that God commanded in the old Testament / ye they should be circumcised / and examples thereof in the new Testament / for that the Apostles baptised whole families / whereby all likelihood there were children. Now / we say that there is this commandment in the old Testament / of the ministers / and there are examples in the new Testament general and through out / why should it not then be necessary in this / as well as in the other? Besides that / in the. 6. of the Acts / the Apostles command that the church should seek them out Deacons / whom they might appoint over the poor.

For to proue the Baptisme of children and yong infantes / what stronger holde haue we / then that God commaunded in the old Testament / ye they should be circumcised / and examples thereof in the newe Testament / for that the Apostles baptised whole families / wherby all likelyhode there were children. Now / we saye that there is thys commaundement in the olde Testament / of the ministers / and there are examples in the newe Testament generall and through out / why shuld it not then be necessary in this / as wel as in the other? Besides that / in the. 6. of the Actes / the Apostles commaund that the church should seke them out Deacons / whome they might appoynt ouer the poore.

Touching certain Ceremonies / I have showed that they are necessary: as namely the Sacraments.

Touching certaine Ceremonies / I haue shewed that they are necessarye: as namely the Sacraments.

And as for Discipline and government / I have showed partly / and more hereafter will be showed / that they are of the substance of the gospel / if to have Excommunication / be to have Discipline / or if to have pastors or Bishops / and Doctors / and Deacons / be government of the Church. You say / that howsoever in the Apostles time this use was of having the consent of the church in the choice of their pastor or bishop / now in this estate it were most pernicious and hurtful. Wherein / see how unadvisedly you condemn the churches of Geneva / of all France / of certain of the German churches / which keep this order. But you allege your reasons / therefore those those are to be considered / because they come so rare. For your manner is / that if you can have but one writer / new / or old of your side / or which seemeth to be of your side? you run away with the matter / as though you had scripture / reason / doctors / and all.