A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

I have showed you reasons before / why it can not be so taken of the sole election of the Bishop / the church being shut out. If authority would do any good in this behalf / as it seemeth it ought / seeing that all your proof through out the whole book / is in the authorities of men / (which Aristotle calleth atechnas peiseis, uncunning proofs) I could send you to master Calum / which teacheth / that it is not to be thought that S. Paul would permit to Titus to ordain bishops and ministers by his own authority / when he him self would not take so much upon him / but joined his with the voices of the church. But he peradventure savoureth not your taste / and yet you would make men believe sometimes / that you make much of him if you can get but one word unjointed / and racked in pieces from the rest / to make good your part. If he weigh not with you / you have master Musculus / whom you take to be a ¹great patron of yours in this cause / which doth with greater vehemency affirm the same thing that master Calvin saith / asking whether any man can believe that Paul permitted in this place to Titus / or in the place before alleged to Timothy / that they should ordain of their own authority / and by them selves / when as Paul would not do it but by the voices and election of the church.

I haue shewed you reasons before / why it cā not be so taken of the sole election of the Bishop / the church being shutte out. If authoritie woulde doe any good in thys behalfe / as it seemeth it ought / seeing that all your proofe throughe out the whole booke / is in the authorities of men / (which Aristotle calleth atechnas peiseis, vncunning proofes) I coulde sende you to maister Calum / which teacheth / that it is not to be thought that S. Paule woulde permit to Titus to ordayne byshoppes and ministers by hys owne authoritie / when he hym selfe would not take so much vpon hym / but ioyned hys with the voyces of the church. But he peraduenture sauoureth not your tast / and yet you woulde make men beleue sometimes / that you make muche of hym if you can gette but one worde vnioynted / and racked in peeces from the rest / to make good your part. If hee weyghe not with you / you haue maister Musculus / whome you take to bee a ¹great patrone of youres in thys cause / which dothe with greater vehemencie affirme the same thing that mayster Caluin sayth / asking whether any man can beleeue that Paisle permitted in thys place to Titus / or in the place before alledged to Timothe / that they shoulde ordayne of theyr owne authoritie / and by them selues / when as Paule woulde not doe it but by the voyces and election of the churche.